[Faith-talk] Ridiculous!

Fri May 19 16:13:34 UTC 2017

Yeah, I was happy for her. She really wants to do something with it.
 Justin

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That is a wonderful story Justin! Oh and congratulations on the baptism. My
sisters didn't get their kids baptized, but I was very blessed to attend the
baptism of all four of my now ex-husband's nieces and nephews. Those kids
really enriched my life and I am blessed that their families have kept me
up-to-date through Facebook though I am no longer technically family. 

Ericka Short from my iPhone 6+

> On May 19, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Justin Williams via Faith-Talk
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> At the catholic confirmation I attended for my cousin a few weeks ago, 
> the head priest was an individual with a physical disability.  They 
> tried to take his duties from him in the church, but he held on and 
> fought off the dogs snapping at his heals.  I sure gave him a thumbs up
and a solute.
> Justin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Ericka via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 11:26 AM
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> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
> 
> Sometimes it's not the doctrine; it's just bylaws have not been rewritten.
> It can be so simple as written where when a minister becomes disabled 
> they are considered unfit for full-time ministerial duty. Kind of like 
> parts of the ADA where "reasonable accommodations" are easily 
> misinterpreted these bylaws are general to cover all sorts of 
> accidents and of course I think it probably goes back to when there 
> were much less technology and ways to do things as there are now. Plus 
> I think the focus for disability organizations on the employment field 
> and such is good but we kind of dropped the ball on educating 
> congregations and leaders at the top. Perhaps we should be inviting 
> our pastors, bishops etc. to the national Federation of the blind 
> convention so they can see for themselves.  Just an idea I thought of
right now.
> 
> The tricky part here with congregations is the day you don't have to 
> abide by the ADA kind a like they don't have to pay taxes. They get 
> the special privilege because their faith based, but in reality it 
> comes down to money and misunderstanding because they are human and 
> things don't happen the way they should. I understand we are a country 
> with separation of church and state but I really wish that the ADA was 
> a enforced for faith-based organizations including congregations as well!
> 
> Ericka Short from my iPhone 6+
> 
>> On May 18, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Linda, it is very difficult to read your posts sometimes. Among 
>> Christians
> there is a diversity of Biblical interpretation, including regarding 
> issues of women and men. I am not sure if you realize it, but some 
> Christian groups believe that it is false doctrine to hold the view 
> that people with disabilities can be practicing ministers.
>> 
>> Please try to be more respectful of those of us who hold differing
> Biblical interpretations.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Linda
> Mentink via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:37 PM
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> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
>> 
>> Oops! I thought Rob was misunderstanding what I said about the church 
>> of
> which I
>> 
>> am a member, even though it was a reply to Melissa and Ericka.  
>> My apologies.  Women can't help such a thing!
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Linda ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> To: Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org Date sent: Thu, 18 May 2017 
>> 21:30:54 -0500
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
>> 
>> Hi Rob,
>> 
>> I never said my church shuns women who can't have children.
>> Please read the posts carefully so you don't rant and rave about
> falsehoods.
>> 
>> Many people nowadays have transportation issues, or can't find a 
>> church
> where the Word of God isn't compromised.  The Bible says that people 
> will have itching ears, and that's part of it.
>> Pastors and leaders are preaching false doctrines and watering down 
>> the
> Gospel.  For many, the internet has to be their source for worship 
> with others, which is really unfortunate.  I hope you can find a 
> church where you can be spiritually fed, and where you can get back 
> and forth.  More and more, church leaders don't want disabled 
> attendees or members.  That's not Biblical, of course, but that 
> doesn't matter to them.  Many don't use the Bible much or at all anymore.
>> 
>> Some of these things are why the National Federation of the Blind in
> Communities of Faith division was formed.  Some can't get 
> transportation; some can't get accessiblematerials; some aren't 
> allowed to minister because they're blind.  Sometime having the 
> advocacy of a national organization is helpful!
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Linda
>> 
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