[Faith-talk] For Catholics with special needs, a religious education that includes | USCatholic.org

Sat May 20 20:45:38 UTC 2017

Debby do not stop posting! I like your pists. I am not offended.  I can't speak for others but I did all that you suggested for all the reasons you stated here. You gave good universal advice Debby! I am not ashamed and very tactful about asking for my needs. I don't try to take advantage either.  I hate when people do that. That gives blind people a terrible image. Curious, what didn't you like about that first parish? I just wish this issue was so simply settled as you shared. 

I am really happy you have had such good experiences. That is wonderful!  Perhaps your music skills helped you  break the ice. If others hear your great voice you'll probably get asked to join choir. The Lutheran church did that to my husband. He also played trumpet there. Not all of us have that ability. My gifts aren't as obvious. 

Like any relationship, It takes just as much effort for both sides. I showed up every Sunday and nobody spoke back even when I initiated interaction. If i needed the bathroom, sure but not on a more petsonal level. I called the office & no help. We attended new member programs & other events. Nobody even asked if my husband & i wanted to volunteer. It wasn't a completely vision issue. My husband was sighted so I had transportation. We went to other parishes with same results. We gave up & attended the lutheran church, a 10 minute walk from home and was welcomed. There were 10 Catholic parishes in Kenosha then and all treated us the same. Sometimes it IS the attitude towards newcomers and sometimes it is something else. 

Ericka Short
from my iPhone 6+

> On May 20, 2017, at 11:26 AM, debby phillips via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> I'm really feeling a bit defensive here. I'm feeling like I should unsubscribe, because I have to say that this has not been my experience of the Catholic Church. I also think that if we go te any church, whatever that church may be expecting them right away to do for us, we will be very disappointed. Most of my time as a practicing Catholic, I was single. I did have some conelp when I first moved to Portland, OR, but that was due to a connection with someone from another city I'd lived in. Eventually I moved to a different parish, and could walk to church. On reakly nasty weather days, I did get rides. I think we do have to put forth some effort on our own, reach out and get involved. It's not easy, especially in the beginning but it's just how it is. Take the bus if you have to, walk if you have to, maybe pay for a cab once or twie, and yes I know it's expensive. But when people see that we make an effort for ourselves, they're a lot more willing then to reach out and accept us. I think that if we act like helpless blind folks that's how we'll be treated. I didd't like the first parish I attended in Portland, and happened to meet someone who took me to her parish, which I really liked. So I eventually moved to that part of Portland so that I could go to that parish. It was a great place for me. But it didn't happen easily or all at once. Well, ow'd best go now, I've probably offended many of you, and I'm sorry if I have, but in all honesty I don't regret having said anything that ow said.    Blessings,    Debby 
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>> On May 19, 2017 7:14 PM, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> The Catholic Church as I have attended in the past never tried to do anything for me either. I've also attended many different types of warship and the only one that has encouraged and supported my faith has been the Evangelical Lutheran Church. 
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>> Ericka Short 
>> 1750 Fordem Ave. #508 
>> Madison. WI. 53704 
>> 608-665-3170 
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>> from my iPhone 6+ 
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>>> On May 19, 2017, at 3:33 PM, Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote: 
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>>> Hi all, having one in the Catholic or year. I think it's interesting people the article special needs special needs special needs it has every thing but lightness and yes a different special needs his mental and physical situation why this is a whole Nother beast. And people tend to forget that. Hence why we have to pay crap load the money for him though. 
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>>> Also, I don't see one of the richest churches in the universe helping pay for the him situation, or most definitely the transit situation which blind people having difficulty with. I can't afford to pay for paratransit to take me to choir practice, in fact, when I audition and was asked to be in the choir choir director told me that I was not going to be able to ask anyone for help in transportation in the choir in fact his words were don't expect anyone to help you get to and from from the choir. And I'm sorry, that's a little different. 
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>>> It seems is this the special-needs situation there seem to be more activities and abilities. Also on the other hand. 
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>>> Again, I'm not bashing the church. I'm just telling you what I have seen in several cities in my life 
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>>> Jenny 
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>>>> On May 19, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote: 
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>>>> Felt this was a good article to share. No I'm not Catholic, I very much respect this pope and wish everyone clung to his words. 
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>>>> http://www.uscatholic.org/articles/201704/catholics-special-needs-religious-education-includes-30990 
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>>>> Ericka Short 
>>>> 1750 Fordem Ave. #508 
>>>> Madison. WI. 53704 
>>>> 608-665-3170 
>>>> 
>>>> from my iPhone 6+ 
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