[Faith-talk] For Catholics with special needs, a religious education that includes | USCatholic.org

Sun May 21 00:41:09 UTC 2017

Hi Debby,

I can understand your feelings. I'm glad for you that the church you love 
and attend is welcoming and you can join in as just one other member.
Your situation of integration is one we would all like I'm sure. I can also 
agree that we have to help ourselves and the first thing we should not do is 
ask for help. But, pretty soon to keep going to church, you are going to 
need to ask for transportation unless you can keep affording expensive 
paratransit or are lucky to have a bus running. That is if you live alone or 
live with no drivers who can assist.
I do not know about your area, but our metro area has real limited bus 
service on Sundays.

And, no I never found your messages offensive. You definitely share your 
thoughts and I know they're from the heart.
So do not read on if you don't want to hear negatives on the catholic 
church.

I join the rest of you  in saying a word on the catholic church.
I was just in a religion class elective; I take classes off and on as I look 
for work. We had to attend another type of religious service; another type 
means another religion different than one we grew up in; since I am 
protestant, I was approved by the professor to attend a catholic church.
So I went and dad went with me as to not be so alone in this massive church.
I found that people just leave in a hurry after service. How different than 
most protestant churches where we shake hands with the minister, greet 
anyone else there in the receiving line by the minister such as a family who 
had a kid who was baptized, optionally join the congregation in the 
fellowship hall, and say hi to others.
It is so different in the Catholic church I learned from my participant 
assignment. Catholics leave after service and no one spoke to each other or 
their own priest. In fact, I got a sense that the priest did not even know 
his congregation, although I suppose that is typical in a large church.
I did not find the Catholicchurch too friendly. I also reached out to the 
worship director. Can you believe this? Of all people, I expected a church 
leader to be helpful to someone for an assignment. The director failed to 
return my emails and phone calls.
I did speak to the priest, but he seemed kind of aloof. I was hoping he 
would have described the church atmosphere more like the setup and 
architecture when I asked him about the
sanctuary.

Ericka, I can see why you said what you said.

I'm not bashing the church to anyone who is catholic. I'm just sharing 
thoughts and echoing others experiences.

Ashley
-----Original Message----- 
From: debby phillips via Faith-Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:26 PM
To: Ericka via Faith-Talk
Cc: semisweetdebby at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] For Catholics with special needs, a religious 
education that includes | USCatholic.org

I'm really feeling a bit defensive here. I'm feeling like I should 
unsubscribe, because I have to say that this has not been my experience of 
the Catholic Church. I also think that if we go te any church, whatever that 
church may be expecting them right away to do for us, we will be very 
disappointed. Most of my time as a practicing Catholic, I was single. I did 
have some conelp when I first moved to Portland, OR, but that was due to a 
connection with someone from another city I'd lived in. Eventually I moved 
to a different parish, and could walk to church. On reakly nasty weather 
days, I did get rides. I think we do have to put forth some effort on our 
own, reach out and get involved. It's not easy, especially in the beginning 
but it's just how it is. Take the bus if you have to, walk if you have to, 
maybe pay for a cab once or twie, and yes I know it's expensive. But when 
people see that we make an effort for ourselves, they're a lot more willing 
then to reach out and accept us. I think that if we act like helpless blind 
folks that's how we'll be treated. I didd't like the first parish I attended 
in Portland, and happened to meet someone who took me to her parish, which I 
really liked. So I eventually moved to that part of Portland so that I could 
go to that parish. It was a great place for me. But it didn't happen easily 
or all at once. Well, ow'd best go now, I've probably offended many of you, 
and I'm sorry if I have, but in all honesty I don't regret having said 
anything that ow said.    Blessings,    Debby

On May 19, 2017 7:14 PM, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> 
wrote:
>
> The Catholic Church as I have attended in the past never tried to do 
> anything for me either. I've also attended many different types of warship 
> and the only one that has encouraged and supported my faith has been the 
> Evangelical Lutheran Church.
>
> Ericka Short
> 1750 Fordem Ave. #508
> Madison. WI. 53704
> 608-665-3170
>
> from my iPhone 6+
>
> > On May 19, 2017, at 3:33 PM, Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk 
> > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all, having one in the Catholic or year. I think it's interesting 
> > people the article special needs special needs special needs it has 
> > every thing but lightness and yes a different special needs his mental 
> > and physical situation why this is a whole Nother beast. And people tend 
> > to forget that. Hence why we have to pay crap load the money for him 
> > though.
> >
> >
> > Also, I don't see one of the richest churches in the universe helping 
> > pay for the him situation, or most definitely the transit situation 
> > which blind people having difficulty with. I can't afford to pay for 
> > paratransit to take me to choir practice, in fact, when I audition and 
> > was asked to be in the choir choir director told me that I was not going 
> > to be able to ask anyone for help in transportation in the choir in fact 
> > his words were don't expect anyone to help you get to and from from the 
> > choir. And I'm sorry, that's a little different.
> >
> > It seems is this the special-needs situation there seem to be more 
> > activities and abilities. Also on the other hand.
> >
> > Again, I'm not bashing the church. I'm just telling you what I have seen 
> > in several cities in my life
> >
> >
> > Jenny
> >
> >> On May 19, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Ericka via Faith-Talk 
> >> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Felt this was a good article to share. No I'm not Catholic, I very much 
> >> respect this pope and wish everyone clung to his words.
> >>
> >> http://www.uscatholic.org/articles/201704/catholics-special-needs-religious-education-includes-30990
> >>
> >>
> >> Ericka Short
> >> 1750 Fordem Ave. #508
> >> Madison. WI. 53704
> >> 608-665-3170
> >>
> >> from my iPhone 6+
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