[Faith-talk] For Catholics with special needs, areligiouseducation that includes | USCatholic.org

Jenny Keller jlperdue3 at gmail.com
Mon May 22 00:41:35 UTC 2017 

Well, the understanding that I have, is that it is sort of looks like a braille note or something like that. Real keyboard, refreshable braille display, but it hooks via Bluetooth to an iPhone or iPad. I'm not sure if it works with android or not.

Apparently, it's very durable and they're only I think $599. But they've been saying next spring next spring all that crap.

And, nothing. So, maybe by the time it actually gets here I'll drop the price even more.

If anyone else has any other details let me know. Oh, it does have slight memory if you don't choose to use it as a brill as a braille display, it also can use SD cards and such as that.


Jenny

> On May 21, 2017, at 7:16 PM, debby phillips via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey Jenny, what is the Orbit? Guess I'm behind the times. We're having a Vendor Fair at work, and I'm hoping that there will be some refreshable devices there. I really like my Braillenote Touch, but I had to pay so much for it that I'm fearful about taking it anywhere with me. LOL.   Blessings,    Debby
> 
>> On May 21, 2017 3:48 PM, Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, I forgot. Yet we have a braille him know in our church. But a lot of times like the choir pieces that we're going to be doing for the next few weeks of practice and then for a whole two days. Is not available in the braille him now. Which is where my problems to begin.
>> 
>> Hopefully the orbit will come out soon. They keep saying spring spring, spring is almost over
>> 
>> Jenny
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jenny,
>>> 
>>> If you know braille and can use it, then I suggest reading that. Its great for songs. Get a braille embosser and software to make the braille or get a braille display. The orbit reader is going to be a rather inexpensive display at about 500 dollars.
>>> You could ask a charity to assist you if needed like lions clubs.
>>> 
>>> Using braille should solve some of your problems. I hope you can use braille; I know many cannot though who lose vision late in life  and their fingers are not sensative enough.
>>> 
>>> Ug, voice over, I hate that voice. I do not use an I phone yet, but did use that on my ipod.
>>> 
>>> Ashley
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 1:52 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
>>> Cc: Jenny Keller
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] For Catholics with special needs, areligiouseducation that includes | USCatholic.org
>>> 
>>> Add,
>>> 
>>> I wasn't able to go to church today because I wasn't feeling well. Long night.
>>> 
>>> Fortunately, I am able to use my cell phone in order in order to help Sunday school teaching and stuff like that.
>>> 
>>> If I have to and that's if I have to. Our use it for music and stuff in the choir. So, it's only a necessity thing in church.
>>> 
>>> It is difficult though, as I've said to listen to voice over and deal with the words and reality when you're learning a piece of music.
>>> 
>>> Right now, that's my only option.
>>> 
>>> Maybe, and I'm sure, heavenly father will watch out and find us a better way. Maybe he's just decided at this point, to let people know that we can do our own thing. And learn about words and stuff for music on and on iOS.
>>> 
>>> That does show them, that we are making an effort. And that we are trying to do what we can to deal with things as normal as possible there.
>>> 
>>> By the way, sorry the dictation, but, haven't found a Bluetooth keyboard that I like right now. And, waiting for the orbit so hopefully I can find another option. Just out of curiosity, is there anyone who can email me privately about a case that has A keyboard in it, and a place to put your iPhone. That would be a lot easier, instead of just having a separate keyboard and a separate iPhone floating around in your purse.
>>> 
>>> You'll me email me off list of coarse :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> 
>>>> On May 20, 2017, at 6:22 PM, Kendra Schaber via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all!
>>>> I agree with most of it. O.K., the iphone is a god send for most blind people. We have our books, or E Mail, our KNFBREADER, our newspapers, our important information and a lot of intertainment on our phones. On the other hand, that should not mean that you spend all day on the phone either. I have my homework on my phone so I have to be on it a lot, however, when I'm spending time with my boyfriend, I'm not on the phone at all outside of important texts and to pull up movies and T.V. Shows for us to watch together. I don't spend that time writing E Mails and texting all of my friends. My phone is either our televition or just a phone that just waits for phone calls. That's it!!! I also don't spend all day just texting on the phone when I'm with my local friends either. When I'm with them, I either hang out with them or when we do work with our phones, we usually do it together. We share our work or our entertainment when we use our phones. We don't just get on the phones, play games and sit next to each other but in our own worlds all day. Most people don't know how to do that with a smart phone. Smart phones are perfically fine as long as either they are a shared part of the activity such as using one to watch movies on together or set aside during such activities and the own world work saved until the shared activities are done. Same goes for religious services and the rest of what's done in life. The smart phone is a valuable tule but it's just that, a tule!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Blessed be!!!
>>>> Kendra Schaber
>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear" Author Unknown
>>>> 
>>>> Sent From My GMail EMail account On My IPhone SE. Typed to you with my Keys To Go blue tooth Keyboard, the only keyboard I know to work with an IPhone SE.
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 20, 2017, at 3:43 PM, David Moore via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ericka and all,
>>>>> I have wondered just how many shut ins and people with many disabilities ever get to walk into a church. I think about this all the time. You see, the media and many other sources are telling people who have been oppressed to give up on God, Give up on Religeon, You are at the top of the Ladder. People are being told that they alone can solve all of their problems. How sad. With God, we could not breathe. My wife and I talk all of the time about how society has changed here in the United States all the time. I am 51. When I was 10 years old, I remember people in our neighborhood all gathered on the porch just talking for hours. Now, the other day, My wife, Traci, saw a mother and daughter sitting at a table at a restaurant, and they were both reading stuff on their phones and not talking to each other at all. We must ask a very tough question. Are we better off with all of this technology, when it comes to our personal lives, and our faith. Traci and I cannot even get people to commit to helping us move, for example. America has lost all sense of community. Mom and Dad had neighbors in our yard all of the time, when I grew up. Now, most people do not even know their neighbors. You see, the problem in the church is just a symptom of a much larger problem. People are out for themselves, not for others. People are in a hurry all of the time. People try to fit twice as much into their lives than they use to. Life has become so hectic, that God could pound on people’s sholder, and they would not even notice. People are so much into their nice little world in the suburbs. Here in Columbus, People go downtown to work, and fly back to their home in the suburbs. Columbus, the city part, to people is just scum, and they just want to get out of the city far away from this scum. That is the attitude people have in Columbus. The entire city is being handed to low income people, and the people with money are just moving farther out. They do not want to live in the city and actually help those in need. They are moving to the country just to get away from all of those disgusting people here in the inner city. That is the way people think here. Well, guess where most churches are now. Most churches are in the suburbs, where public transportation does not go. Our public Transportation in Columbus is bad, just to navigate down town LOL! You see how many problems are coming into the church? People rush to church, and running out to go to their children’s ball games. This is another thing that bothers Traci and I. Children are in charge anymore. Children tell their parents how it is going to be, and the parents obey what their children want. Parents have their children in so many activities, they do not have time for Bible study. Traci and I went to this very legalistic rich church. The idea of a fifth Sunday Bible study was brought up. Just when there are five Sundays in a month. Traci and I were so angry, because one person had signed up, and they said We might come, only if our son does not have an activity at that time. Isn’t that terrible. They were putting their kids activities over a Bible study! What kind of message is this sending to kids. I could go on and on. People are turning away from God to do what they want to do. The States is far from God. It is not looking good. People would rather go out on black Friday and save a buck than to go to church. It is all about money instead of church, fellowship, and God. I know many Christians who are traveling all of the time, and do not spend time with their own family. I do not like this new world that melinnials are rejoicing over. I see things getting worse and worse instead of getting better. I love people, and people are leaving the picture for technology and robots. I have a love hate relationship with my technology. People sit in church and do things on their phones. That has gone just oo far. I do not even begin to know what the answer is for all of this technology taking over people’s lives. People are way too busy. I want to live a very simple life. People’s lives are far from being simple. That is why they do not have the time to pick up a disabled person. Parents don’t even have time for their own children, because they want to make that almighty dollar and live in a mansion and on and on. There are many problems and reasons why a disabled person cannot be picked up for church. There is just no time for people anymore.
>>>>> Take care, guys, and read all of this and take it for what it is worth.
>>>>> DavidMoore
>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Ericka via Faith-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 5:12 PM
>>>>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
>>>>> Cc: Ericka
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] For Catholics with special needs, areligiouseducation that includes | USCatholic.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> Congratulations Christine!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Debby i think your point about cultural shifts is very true. Sad, but true. I bet Catholics used to stay all the way through mas. Less people are staying for coffee hour in other congregations.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let's stop being defensive here. Nobody is attacking individual faiths. Nobody is making personal attacks. We are all sharing personal experiences, nothing more and we are asking for help because posters WANT to be involved. I pray for all those who don't feel welcome and don't know about this list or our facebook page. It hurts my heart that blind people are giving up on a relationship with God and His children. Has there been a study on how many disabled v. Nondisabled consider themselves religious? How many are active v. Not active by choice? Curious. I know more disabled that are agnostic or atheist than those that practice any faith.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let's share resources instead ok?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks to those who have pisted links, apps & specific suggestions for specific situations.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If we aren't unified here, how can we expect churches to work with our divion?  Christ and the divison's purpise should unite us, not divide.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ericka Short
>>>>> from my iPhone 6+
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 20, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Christine Olivares via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, it really helps when you are the music director of a Catholic church. I just got a job recently doing the music for a local Catholic church, and a couple people will bend over backwards for me so I can play. One of the choir members is great about driving me home, and both my parents take me on the weekends. The bus is also available if no one can take me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree that some denominations are colder than others. People are just lazy to be honest. They don’t really walk the walk I don’t think.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Christine
>>>>>>> On May 20, 2017, at 1:45 AM, Justin Williams via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, this church I'm talking about was a Baptist, or nondenomoination
>>>>>>> church, not sure which, but when I asked if they could send someone  to get
>>>>>>> me, they said no we can't.
>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org <mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org>] On Behalf Of David
>>>>>>> Moore via Faith-Talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:54 AM
>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
>>>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org <mailto:faith-talk at nfbnet.org>>
>>>>>>> Cc: David Moore <jesusloves1966 at gmail.com <mailto:jesusloves1966 at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] For Catholics with special needs, a
>>>>>>> religiouseducation that includes | USCatholic.org <http://uscatholic.org/>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I am not surprised. I have been to a few Catholic masses with friends, and
>>>>>>> people run out of there as soon as they can. New Testament like churches,
>>>>>>> non-denominational churches, will bend over backward for you, because they
>>>>>>> really live out the scriptures. Many Catholics are there out of guilt, or
>>>>>>> because it looks good to their community or family.
>>>>>>> David Moore
>>>>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Ericka via Faith-Talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:15 PM
>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
>>>>>>> Cc: Ericka
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] For Catholics with special needs, a
>>>>>>> religiouseducation that includes | USCatholic.org <http://uscatholic.org/>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Catholic Church as I have attended in the past never tried to do
>>>>>>> anything for me either. I've also attended many different types of warship
>>>>>>> and the only one that has encouraged and supported my faith has been the
>>>>>>> Evangelical Lutheran Church.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ericka Short
>>>>>>> 1750 Fordem Ave. #508
>>>>>>> Madison. WI. 53704
>>>>>>> 608-665-3170
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> from my iPhone 6+
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2017, at 3:33 PM, Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk
>>>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org <mailto:faith-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all, having one in the Catholic or year. I think it's interesting
>>>>>>> people the article special needs special needs special needs it has every
>>>>>>> thing but lightness and yes a different special needs his mental and
>>>>>>> physical situation why this is a whole Nother beast. And people tend to
>>>>>>> forget that. Hence why we have to pay crap load the money for him though.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also, I don't see one of the richest churches in the universe helping pay
>>>>>>> for the him situation, or most definitely the transit situation which blind
>>>>>>> people having difficulty with. I can't afford to pay for paratransit to take
>>>>>>> me to choir practice, in fact, when I audition and was asked to be in the
>>>>>>> choir choir director told me that I was not going to be able to ask anyone
>>>>>>> for help in transportation in the choir in fact his words were don't expect
>>>>>>> anyone to help you get to and from from the choir. And I'm sorry, that's a
>>>>>>> little different.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It seems is this the special-needs situation there seem to be more
>>>>>>> activities and abilities. Also on the other hand.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Again, I'm not bashing the church. I'm just telling you what I have seen
>>>>>>> in several cities in my life
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Ericka via Faith-Talk
>>>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org <mailto:faith-talk at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Felt this was a good article to share. No I'm not Catholic, I very much
>>>>>>> respect this pope and wish everyone clung to his words.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.uscatholic.org/articles/201704/catholics-special-needs-religious- <http://www.uscatholic.org/articles/201704/catholics-special-needs-religious->
>>>>>>> education-includes-30990
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ericka Short
>>>>>>>>> 1750 Fordem Ave. #508
>>>>>>>>> Madison. WI. 53704
>>>>>>>>> 608-665-3170
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> from my iPhone 6+
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