[Faith-talk] Bluetooth Keyboard?

David Andrews dandrews at visi.com
Tue May 30 02:23:38 UTC 2017


People may not be answering your question, because they may not know 
of anything.  Secondly, Faith-
Talk probably isn't your best source for technology-related information.

Dave

At 09:14 PM 5/29/2017, you wrote:
>Thanks,
>
>I don't have a Bluetooth keyboard. I don't know of any that have my 
>needs met. Frankly, I can't afford one anyway. Plus, if I need to 
>travel. I don't want to stick one in my purse that's got whatever in 
>it because I've stuck my hand in it with Lent, dust, whatever in my 
>purse. I don't want to destroy. I've been asking several lists about 
>finding one with cases, or is it fold, or ones that have some sort 
>of protection. But nobody seems to give me answers. And I'm not googling it
>
>If Google is going to be everyone's response, frankly, I'm out. I'm 
>done with the mailing list. We're supposed to be asking questions 
>that wine people need to ask. Google does not have a this is how to 
>use it why list. It doesn't have that section. So, I want to know 
>from a blind person's perspective. Not Google's perspective. Anyhow, 
>thank you again, if anybody knows of a Bluetooth keyboard that has 
>what I need. Let me know
>
>
>Jenny
>
> > On May 29, 2017, at 5:07 PM, David Moore via Faith-Talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> > I thought your message was fine except for a couple of words, but 
> it did not take away from the meaning that you are trying to get 
> across. I thought it was a little picky that someone said 
> something. Please, I am a caring and loving person, so do not take 
> that wrong about saying picky. I type very fast, on a keyboard, but 
> I totally understand that people need to dictate. That is why God 
> allowed us to develop that technology for people who have a 
> challenge with using their hands on a keyboard. Your message was 
> fine to me, and I totally understood. Please let us not get this 
> picky on a faith list. God loves all of us, even people who are 
> vegetables. Remember, that everyone is our superior, because we can 
> learn from everyone. God bless, all!
> > David Moore
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >
> > From: Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk
> > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 3:04 PM
> > To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> > Cc: Jenny Keller
> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
> >
> > Currently, I have to use dictation, that's why my messages have problems.
> >
> > It would take me an hour to do something I can dictate in a minute.
> >
> > I can't keep up with what I've said because it takes so long for 
> me to do what I need to do to type out a message. I have 
> coordination issues. So, using the keyboard, or the hand writing 
> feature, is quite slow.
> >
> > I do apologize if something came out wrong
> >
> >
> > Jenny
> >
> >> On May 28, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jenny,
> >> Please proofread your messages.
> >>
> >> You can look bookshare up online at bookshare.org.
> >> Then decide for yourself if its resources and expense fit your 
> needs or wants.
> >> The fee is $75 to begin.
> >> You pay an annual fee. The limit of books per month is 100 to 
> begin with which IMO is generous.
> >> I'm not a member yet as I rarely find books I need on it and 
> fiture I can download from NLS most of stuff I want or need.
> >>
> >> It is better in the sense that they have way more books than 
> NLS. They also provide books in a variety of texts formats such as 
> brf which is great
> >> for braille readers. Some would also argue that bookshare is 
> more flexible than NLS because you can submit a request to them and 
> they usually honor requests. You can even volunteer to scan books for them.
> >> Also, because its text based, you have flexibility in navigating 
> it by chunks of text.
> >> You can get spellings of words, something critical for students.
> >> So in many ways it is better. Bookshare is just one more tool in 
> the toolbox if you want to use it.
> >>
> >> Ashley
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 2:04 PM
> >> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> >> Cc: Jenny Keller
> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
> >>
> >> What is it mean by volunteering back from them. And, how much is 
> this subscription per month.
> >>
> >> Also, why is it better than the talking books which are free? I 
> mean, a lot of times where I've gotten books that talk over the 
> light CDs and tapes nonstop, they're all abridged. So why wouldn't 
> the books year's book the abridged.
> >>
> >> Like I said, why is it better than an LS please understand, it's 
> not something I know about.
> >>
> >> I'm not a avid reader. But, maybe it's because the readers are 
> just boring. I don't know. So, that would be interesting to know. Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> Jenny
> >>
> >>> On May 26, 2017, at 11:01 PM, Melissa R Green via Faith-Talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You have to buy a subscription to book share, however, if you 
> are enrolled with Hadley, or any school.  you can get a free 
> subscription.  I also volunteer for them, which which gives me 
> reward credits towards a membership.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Melissa R. Green And Pj
> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk
> >>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:51 PM
> >>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> >>> Cc: Jenny Keller
> >>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
> >>>
> >>> Also, don't you have to pay for the books on book share. If 
> not, give me info please
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jenny
> >>>
> >>>> On May 26, 2017, at 8:08 PM, andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi how are you nick i am from canada but can book share  be accessed by
> >>>> those who are blind from canada
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Nick Hlifka via Faith-Talk <
> >>>> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Ashley and all:
> >>>>> Nice to meet you all - I'm new to the list, a blind Christian 
> in western
> >>>>> NY. I use the Braille Note and Bookshare, and there are 
> plenty of Bookshare
> >>>>> resources for both reading and studying the Bible. Quite a 
> few versions are
> >>>>> on there, including NIV, KJV, NKJV, ESV, and my personal 
> favorite, NRSV.
> >>>>> There are lots of commentaries as well - quite a few of them are
> >>>>> multi-volume sets, so you have to download the one appropriate for the
> >>>>> section you are reading. But John MacArthur has one that is 
> all in one and
> >>>>> gives nice succinct yet informative descriptions of context, 
> background,
> >>>>> and verse exposition, including a nice intro for every book 
> in the Bible.
> >>>>> (Even if you don't agree with all of his theology, it's a good choice.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You might also consider some books that help understand 
> certain aspects of
> >>>>> the faith/theology more. David Jeremiah, Chuck Swindoll, John 
> MacArthur,
> >>>>> etc. all have tons on there that are really good.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And, as was mentioned, Bible Gateway, Bible Hub, Bible Study Tools, and
> >>>>> other web sites (all quite accessible) are good online 
> sources for Bible
> >>>>> content, studying, free commentaries, and the Bible text itself.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I can always help point you to a specific book/material if there's
> >>>>> something in particular you're wondering about or want to 
> read up on. I'm a
> >>>>> big reader myself and probably will have some suggestions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Blessings,
> >>>>> Nick
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Rob
> >>>>> Kaiser via Faith-Talk
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 2:33 PM
> >>>>> To: 'Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and 
> religion' <
> >>>>> faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> Cc: Rob Kaiser <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, if this hasn't already been posted, if you have a 
> Braiille note, the
> >>>>> entire King James version of the Bible is in the Braille note 
> i believe. I
> >>>>> hope this also helps.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rob Kaiser
> >>>>> Email;
> >>>>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>>>> debby phillips via Faith-Talk
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:30 PM
> >>>>> To: Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> Cc: semisweetdebby at gmail.com
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Ashley, there are several ways to study the Bible. Bible 
> Gateway is a
> >>>>> very good app if you have a smart phone. But also I believe that as you
> >>>>> read you may begin to find more understanding. Here's a way to do this.
> >>>>> It's called Lectio Divina, or Divine Reading. Take a passage 
> of Scripture
> >>>>> and slowly begin to read it. If something strikes you about 
> that passage of
> >>>>> Scripture, read it again. Then begin to think about what you have read.
> >>>>> This would be meditating on it. Then begin praying about your thoughts
> >>>>> about the Scripture. Perhaps God will bring something to your 
> mind that He
> >>>>> wants you to do, or to think about more. This is allowing the 
> Word of God
> >>>>> to speak to you, to your heart. This is not really Bible 
> study per se, but
> >>>>> it is a way of allowing Scripture to speak to you, to your heart.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you have access to Bookshare, there may be some good 
> -taries. Hope this
> >>>>> helps.    Debby
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On May 20, 2017 7:56 PM, Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk <
> >>>>> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sarah,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Which faith are you? I was raised Methodist and now I will just
> >>>>>> identify as a Christian as I'm not really too active in a church and
> >>>>>> really don't agree with any church doctrines all the way; I mean I
> >>>>>> accept the main stuff like the Trinity and Apostles creed, but not
> >>>>>> everything the Methodist church says.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I agree with you about the context of the scriptures. It was written
> >>>>>> in a different time and place that should be taken into account.
> >>>>>> I do my best to understand the bible but I do not know the contexts of
> >>>>>> all the actions like the groups such as the Pharasees and Sadducees.
> >>>>>> I don't understand some of the Bible actually particularly the Old
> >>>>>> testament. I wish there was some accessible Study Bibles which have
> >>>>>> those notes to put the scripture in context and give you definitions.
> >>>>>> I read the NIV in braille.
> >>>>>> I don't take the bible too literally, but, I'm not very liberal
> >>>>>> either; I suppose I'm in between. As to the gender thing, I'm
> >>>>>> wondering which scriptures tell us a woman should stay home and rear
> >>>>>> children and man needs to be the breadwinner. I've read a lot of
> >>>>>> scripture, although more of the New testament. I don't seem to  recall
> >>>>>> these passages Linda says and believes.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I did see references to women caring for children actually; Paul tells
> >>>>>> us that and its in Romans and Acts if I remember correctly. But Paul
> >>>>>> did not exclude women working I don't think.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I do think its better for a parent or family member to stay home and
> >>>>>> care for the kids. But IMO, it does not have to be the mother. It can
> >>>>>> be a stay at home father; even a retired neighbor, or even a 
> grandparent.
> >>>>>> Kids need someone to watch them, love them, hug them and hold them
> >>>>>> especially as a young toddler, teach them values, enforce academics,
> >>>>>> and more, and with two parents working, its hard to do such a thing.
> >>>>>> Heck, many parents do not even see their children since they are put
> >>>>>> to bed like at
> >>>>>> 7:00 or 8:00 before one parent gets home from work. How  sad I think
> >>>>>> as this parent has little relationship with their kid.
> >>>>>> Also, I think day care raising your kids can bring on several issues.
> >>>>>> And, I'm not going to start on my rant about day cares as that is not
> >>>>>> exactly on topic.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sarah, I'm sure you read the Bible carefully. I wish you success in
> >>>>>> your upcoming ministry.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ashley
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:59 PM
> >>>>>> To: 'Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith 
> and religion'
> >>>>>> Cc: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Terminology
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi, Linda.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In fact, I have read for myself and have asked that the Holy Spirit
> >>>>>> helped me to understand and to live accordingly. This is part of the
> >>>>>> difficulty that I am having. What you are saying here is that
> >>>>>> obviously I have not done this, or else the Holy Spirit would have led
> >>>>>> me to understand and to live as you do. What the Holy Spirit led me to
> >>>>>> understand is that those passages were written within a cultural
> >>>>>> context that is very important to understand and that in order to
> >>>>>> understand the Scripture I needed to research that context. 
> I hope that
> >>>>> our differing perspectives make better sense now.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>>>>> Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:55 AM
> >>>>>> To: Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>>> Cc: Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net>
> >>>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Terminology
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Sarah and All,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It seems that I have used incorrect terminology.  I am sorry, and will
> >>>>>> no longer mention false doctrines or state what I and my church
> >>>>>> believe.  It's a big part of the faith which I have, but some can't
> >>>>>> read about it because they're uncomfortable with what I post.  I will
> >>>>>> refrain, but everyone else here has the freedom to do so.  I am not a
> >>>>>> Greek or Hebrew scholar as others here are.
> >>>>>> Sarah, I wish you would have said I was using those words incorrectly
> >>>>>> in the first place.  You could have been comfortable here a lot sooner
> >>>>>> had you done so.  Now that I know, I will cease to share what I
> >>>>>> believe to be Biblical teachings, and will no longer share how they
> >>>>>> are still applicable to us today.  If listers are so inclined, and as
> >>>>>> Christians we all should be, read the Bible for yourselves, and ask
> >>>>>> that God, through His Holy Spirit, would help you to understand and to
> >>>>> live accordingly.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Blessings,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Linda





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