[Faith-talk] Little children being told in school that theyarethe other sex!

Sat Sep 16 08:05:34 UTC 2017

Hi Kaden!
Do you take Genesis chapters one and two literally?
If you do, God created a man and a woman to be together. The Bible does not speak of this stuff, and I bet that Mohammed would not have believed that a teacher can attach any sex they want to a little child. Come on. We are talking about little children, deciding whether they are a boy or girl, before they even understand sex. Come on, Kaden.
Would you want your boy talking to his teacher at school, and deciding to be a girl for life, without consulting you first?
That is what this article is talking about.
We are not talking about adults making up their own decision after going to the doctor and so on. We are talking about a 5-year-old and his school teacher deciding to make that decision with even consulting you. Wake up and smell the coffee. Your rights as a parent are being taken away, and put into the hands of our education system.
Is that what you want for your child?
David Moore
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From: Kaden Colton via Faith-Talk
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 3:54 AM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
Cc: Kaden Colton
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Little children being told in school that theyarethe other sex!

Hello all,

I respectfully disagree. In the Quran, chapter 42 verses 49 and 50, it states "He creates what He wills. He give to whom He wills females, He gives to whom He wills makes, or He makes them both male and female. And he renders whom He wills barren. Indeed, He is knowing and competent." Allah creates diversity and transgender people are part of that diversity. They are a part of His creation. In Islam, no one can tell anyone else what they believe in or what their relationship is to Allah. 

I have a couple questions for you all about this topic what makes anyone here assume that LGBT people are not religious? When did you know you were male or female?

The contempt that I have read in these messages about transgender people was one of many reasons why I left Christianity and converted to Islam. Are there Muslims who dispose the LGBT community? Yes. Are there Christians who are LGBT affirming? Yes.  But I do not agree with forcing people to live a lie or follow what someone else has told them to do. Each person has their unique relationship to God. Part of the reason why so manyLGBT folks I know who no longer go to church, mosque or synagogue is because of spiritual trauma stemming from the condemnation of who they are. Over and over again, they are told that who they are is wrong and they are doomed to hell fire. Many heterosexual and cisgender (not transgender) folks do not get the same messages in places of worship. One of the Bible quotes I try and live by is "Judge and ye shall be judged." I try not to judge people for who they are, the choices they make and how they live their lives. Since God created everything and He loves everything He creates, why shouldn't I as well?

Kaden
> On 16 Sep 2017, at 01:08, Marianne Haas via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I do agree with you.  I think children should learn about this topic at
> home.  I also do not think that children can decide what sex they are.
> 
> Marianne
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David
> Moore via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:48 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> Cc: David Moore
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Little children being told in school that they
> arethe other sex!
> 
> Exactly Ericka,
> Teachers should not be bringing this up, unless the child has a question. If
> I was a teacher, and a child asked me about this, I would call the parents
> and have them come in for a meeting. Teachers should not be playing Mom and
> Dad in schools.
> Have a great one!
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Ericka via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:41 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> Cc: Ericka
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Little children being told in school that they
> arethe other sex!
> 
> This isn't a conversation the kindergarten should have been having with her
> kids. I can understand feeling like you should, but this is something that's
> up to Parents and it bothers me that they were not aware. Unless the child
> provokes the topic transgender shouldn't be spoken about until kids are in
> second grade. Parents should always be notified regardless. I do know that
> some babies are born with both sets of genitalia and the doctors decide. But
> that doesn't mean that the rest of their genetic make up follows what the
> doctor chose. I have no idea how common or how rare that is. I'm just
> stating that there is some merit to people I'm not feeling comfortable in
> their own skin. Girls have different hormones for example. I have the
> feeling that once the doctor chooses what a baby's gender will be in these
> cases they just do blood work to find out later and give them proper
> medication which the kid doesn't know anything about. Considering there are
> a lot of hormonal and balance is out there like polycystic ovarian syndrome
> we can't totally write this off. Someday hopefully will be able to figure
> out why this happens, but until then only our dear Lord knows. 
> 
> Personally I'm glad we'renot all  cookie  cutters! Sure if we came out of
> the womb and looked and thought the same life would be easy, but God never
> said life was supposed to be.  There's a variety in this world to teach us
> the fruits of the Spirit. (Galatians 5:22-23)
> 
> 
> Ericka Short
> from my iPhone 6+
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:58 PM, David Moore via Faith-Talk
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Please read this, and think about how confused you would have been as a
> child if this had happened to you. It is a lost nation we live in!
>> Kindergarten Transgender Reveal, a "Pronoun Mishap" and Abandoning  
>> God's Word  by  Ken Ham  on September 14, 2017 The craziness of a 
>> culture unhinged from the truth of God's Word  continues!
>> Two stories, both involving the same charter school in California,  
>> have been  in the news recently because of transgender controversy. 
>> And both  stories highlight the confusion that results from abandoning 
>> the  absolute authority of  God's Word.
>> Apparently,
>> at the end of the school year a few months ago, a kindergarten 
>> teacher  read two kids' books dealing with transgender to her class. 
>> After  reading the books,  a male student got up and reportedly 
>> switched into girls' clothing and  was introduced to the class as a 
>> girl with a different name and  different pronouns.
>> Parents had not been notified this was going to happen, and many were  
>> understandably upset about it, as were many of the children in the  
>> class who were  confused and scared by it all.
>> Well, this academy is
>> back in the news again
>> because a first grader greeted this boy, who now identifies as a 
>> girl,  by his original male name, the name she knew him as all last year.
>> Reportedly,
>> the first grader was reprimanded on the playground and sent to the  
>> principal's office to determine if the incident was bullying or a  
>> genuine "pronoun mishap."
>> Apparently, the little girl was very upset from the incident and felt  
>> as if she was being punished for greeting someone.
>> As schools and other institutions bend over backward to accommodate 
>> the  sinful behaviors of those in the LGBT community, we will only see  
>> instances  like  this increase.
>> As schools and other institutions bend over backward to accommodate 
>> the  sinful behaviors of those in the LGBT community, we will only see  
>> instances  like  this increase. It's very sad that this young boy 
>> (yes, he's genetically  and  physiologically a male), who believes he 
>> is a girl, is being encouraged to  forsake his God-given gender and 
>> embrace a sinful lifestyle that he  doesn't  fully understand. And 
>> it's equally sad that other children-very young  children-are  being 
>> indoctrinated in the secular transgender ideology.
>> But this kind of confusion is exactly what we expect from a culture 
>> that  has  abandoned the absolute authority of God's Word. Without an 
>> ultimate  standard  for what is right and wrong, "anything goes," just 
>> as it did in the days  of  the Old Testament judges when everyone did 
>> what was right in their own  eyes  Judges 21:25).
>> As Christians, we can reach out to a confused world with solid, 
>> biblical  answers. There are only two sexes-male and female. Because 
>> we are created  uniquely  by God, we don't have the authority to 
>> redefine sex and gender. We don't  own  ourselves; God owns us. Yes, 
>> because of sin and the Curse (  Genesis 3),  there are going to be 
>> cases where physical bodies are affected by sin, and  parents and 
>> doctors need to make informed decisions. And, yes, again  because  of 
>> sin and the Curse, there are going to be those who struggle with 
>> gender  dysphoria, even possibly from a very young age. But the answer 
>> is not to  encourage  people to reject God's design and embrace a 
>> sinful lifestyle, particularly  children. It's to point people toward 
>> the hope and freedom that can be  found only in Jesus Christ and what 
>> he did for us on the Cross.
>> And that's the
>> message this world desperately needs to hear.
>> Thanks for stopping by and thanks for  praying,  Ken 
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