[Faith-talk] Little children being told in school that theyarethe other sex!

Linda Mentink mentink at frontiernet.net
Sun Sep 17 13:05:24 UTC 2017


Hi Kaden,

I will answer this one off list as well.  I will give you a 
careful response as soon as I can.  Your questions deserve to be 
answered.

Blessings,

Linda

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Kaden Colton via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and 
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Date sent: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 08:53:55 +0100
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Little children being told in school 
that theyarethe other sex!

Hello all,

I respectfully disagree.  In the Quran, chapter 42 verses 49 and 
50, it states "He creates what He wills.  He give to whom He 
wills females, He gives to whom He wills makes, or He makes them 
both male and female.  And he renders whom He wills barren.  
Indeed, He is knowing and competent." Allah creates diversity and 
transgender people are part of that diversity.  They are a part 
of His creation.  In Islam, no one can tell anyone else what they 
believe in or what their relationship is to Allah.

I have a couple questions for you all about this topic what makes 
anyone here assume that LGBT people are not religious? When did 
you know you were male or female?

The contempt that I have read in these messages about transgender 
people was one of many reasons why I left Christianity and 
converted to Islam.  Are there Muslims who dispose the LGBT 
community? Yes.  Are there Christians who are LGBT affirming? 
Yes.  But I do not agree with forcing people to live a lie or 
follow what someone else has told them to do.  Each person has 
their unique relationship to God.  Part of the reason why so 
manyLGBT folks I know who no longer go to church, mosque or 
synagogue is because of spiritual trauma stemming from the 
condemnation of who they are.  Over and over again, they are told 
that who they are is wrong and they are doomed to hell fire.  
Many heterosexual and cisgender (not transgender) folks do not 
get the same messages in places of worship.  One of the Bible 
quotes I try and live by is "Judge and ye shall be judged." I try 
not to judge people for who they are, the choices they make and 
how they live their lives.  Since God created everything and He 
loves everything He creates, why shouldn't I as well?

Kaden
 On 16 Sep 2017, at 01:08, Marianne Haas via Faith-Talk 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 I do agree with you.  I think children should learn about this 
topic at
 home.  I also do not think that children can decide what sex 
they are.

 Marianne

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of David
 Moore via Faith-Talk
 Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:48 PM
 To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and 
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 Cc: David Moore
 Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Little children being told in school 
that they
 arethe other sex!

 Exactly Ericka,
 Teachers should not be bringing this up, unless the child has a 
question.  If
 I was a teacher, and a child asked me about this, I would call 
the parents
 and have them come in for a meeting.  Teachers should not be 
playing Mom and
 Dad in schools.
 Have a great one!
 Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 From: Ericka via Faith-Talk
 Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:41 PM
 To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and 
religion
 Cc: Ericka
 Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Little children being told in school 
that they
 arethe other sex!

 This isn't a conversation the kindergarten should have been 
having with her
 kids.  I can understand feeling like you should, but this is 
something that's
 up to Parents and it bothers me that they were not aware.  
Unless the child
 provokes the topic transgender shouldn't be spoken about until 
kids are in
 second grade.  Parents should always be notified regardless.  I 
do know that
 some babies are born with both sets of genitalia and the doctors 
decide.  But
 that doesn't mean that the rest of their genetic make up follows 
what the
 doctor chose.  I have no idea how common or how rare that is.  
I'm just
 stating that there is some merit to people I'm not feeling 
comfortable in
 their own skin.  Girls have different hormones for example.  I 
have the
 feeling that once the doctor chooses what a baby's gender will 
be in these
 cases they just do blood work to find out later and give them 
proper
 medication which the kid doesn't know anything about.  
Considering there are
 a lot of hormonal and balance is out there like polycystic 
ovarian syndrome
 we can't totally write this off.  Someday hopefully will be able 
to figure
 out why this happens, but until then only our dear Lord knows.

 Personally I'm glad we'renot all  cookie  cutters! Sure if we 
came out of
 the womb and looked and thought the same life would be easy, but 
God never
 said life was supposed to be.  There's a variety in this world 
to teach us
 the fruits of the Spirit.  (Galatians 5:22-23)


 Ericka Short
 from my iPhone 6+

 On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:58 PM, David Moore via Faith-Talk
 <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 Please read this, and think about how confused you would have 
been as a
 child if this had happened to you.  It is a lost nation we live 
in!
 Kindergarten Transgender Reveal, a "Pronoun Mishap" and 
Abandoning
 God's Word  by  Ken Ham  on September 14, 2017 The craziness of 
a
 culture unhinged from the truth of God's Word  continues!
 Two stories, both involving the same charter school in 
California,
 have been  in the news recently because of transgender 
controversy.
 And both  stories highlight the confusion that results from 
abandoning
 the  absolute authority of  God's Word.
 Apparently,
 at the end of the school year a few months ago, a kindergarten
 teacher  read two kids' books dealing with transgender to her 
class.
 After  reading the books,  a male student got up and reportedly
 switched into girls' clothing and  was introduced to the class 
as a
 girl with a different name and  different pronouns.
 Parents had not been notified this was going to happen, and many 
were
 understandably upset about it, as were many of the children in 
the
 class who were  confused and scared by it all.
 Well, this academy is
 back in the news again
 because a first grader greeted this boy, who now identifies as a
 girl,  by his original male name, the name she knew him as all 
last year.
 Reportedly,
 the first grader was reprimanded on the playground and sent to 
the
 principal's office to determine if the incident was bullying or 
a
 genuine "pronoun mishap."
 Apparently, the little girl was very upset from the incident and 
felt
 as if she was being punished for greeting someone.
 As schools and other institutions bend over backward to 
accommodate
 the  sinful behaviors of those in the LGBT community, we will 
only see
 instances  like  this increase.
 As schools and other institutions bend over backward to 
accommodate
 the  sinful behaviors of those in the LGBT community, we will 
only see
 instances  like  this increase.  It's very sad that this young 
boy
 (yes, he's genetically  and  physiologically a male), who 
believes he
 is a girl, is being encouraged to  forsake his God-given gender 
and
 embrace a sinful lifestyle that he  doesn't  fully understand.  
And
 it's equally sad that other children-very young  children-are  
being
 indoctrinated in the secular transgender ideology.
 But this kind of confusion is exactly what we expect from a 
culture
 that  has  abandoned the absolute authority of God's Word.  
Without an
 ultimate  standard  for what is right and wrong, "anything 
goes," just
 as it did in the days  of  the Old Testament judges when 
everyone did
 what was right in their own  eyes  Judges 21:25).
 As Christians, we can reach out to a confused world with solid,
 biblical  answers.  There are only two sexes-male and female.  
Because
 we are created  uniquely  by God, we don't have the authority to
 redefine sex and gender.  We don't  own  ourselves; God owns us.  
Yes,
 because of sin and the Curse (  Genesis 3),  there are going to 
be
 cases where physical bodies are affected by sin, and  parents 
and
 doctors need to make informed decisions.  And, yes, again  
because  of
 sin and the Curse, there are going to be those who struggle with
 gender  dysphoria, even possibly from a very young age.  But the 
answer
 is not to  encourage  people to reject God's design and embrace 
a
 sinful lifestyle, particularly  children.  It's to point people 
toward
 the hope and freedom that can be  found only in Jesus Christ and 
what
 he did for us on the Cross.
 And that's the
 message this world desperately needs to hear.
 Thanks for stopping by and thanks for  praying,  Ken
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