[Faith-talk] Little children being told in school that theyarethe other sex!
Linda Mentink
mentink at frontiernet.net
Sun Sep 17 13:05:24 UTC 2017
Hi Kaden,
I will answer this one off list as well. I will give you a
careful response as soon as I can. Your questions deserve to be
answered.
Blessings,
Linda
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From: Kaden Colton via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and
religion"<faith-talk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 08:53:55 +0100
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Little children being told in school
that theyarethe other sex!
Hello all,
I respectfully disagree. In the Quran, chapter 42 verses 49 and
50, it states "He creates what He wills. He give to whom He
wills females, He gives to whom He wills makes, or He makes them
both male and female. And he renders whom He wills barren.
Indeed, He is knowing and competent." Allah creates diversity and
transgender people are part of that diversity. They are a part
of His creation. In Islam, no one can tell anyone else what they
believe in or what their relationship is to Allah.
I have a couple questions for you all about this topic what makes
anyone here assume that LGBT people are not religious? When did
you know you were male or female?
The contempt that I have read in these messages about transgender
people was one of many reasons why I left Christianity and
converted to Islam. Are there Muslims who dispose the LGBT
community? Yes. Are there Christians who are LGBT affirming?
Yes. But I do not agree with forcing people to live a lie or
follow what someone else has told them to do. Each person has
their unique relationship to God. Part of the reason why so
manyLGBT folks I know who no longer go to church, mosque or
synagogue is because of spiritual trauma stemming from the
condemnation of who they are. Over and over again, they are told
that who they are is wrong and they are doomed to hell fire.
Many heterosexual and cisgender (not transgender) folks do not
get the same messages in places of worship. One of the Bible
quotes I try and live by is "Judge and ye shall be judged." I try
not to judge people for who they are, the choices they make and
how they live their lives. Since God created everything and He
loves everything He creates, why shouldn't I as well?
Kaden
On 16 Sep 2017, at 01:08, Marianne Haas via Faith-Talk
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
I do agree with you. I think children should learn about this
topic at
home. I also do not think that children can decide what sex
they are.
Marianne
-----Original Message-----
From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of David
Moore via Faith-Talk
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:48 PM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and
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Cc: David Moore
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Little children being told in school
that they
arethe other sex!
Exactly Ericka,
Teachers should not be bringing this up, unless the child has a
question. If
I was a teacher, and a child asked me about this, I would call
the parents
and have them come in for a meeting. Teachers should not be
playing Mom and
Dad in schools.
Have a great one!
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Ericka via Faith-Talk
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:41 PM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and
religion
Cc: Ericka
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Little children being told in school
that they
arethe other sex!
This isn't a conversation the kindergarten should have been
having with her
kids. I can understand feeling like you should, but this is
something that's
up to Parents and it bothers me that they were not aware.
Unless the child
provokes the topic transgender shouldn't be spoken about until
kids are in
second grade. Parents should always be notified regardless. I
do know that
some babies are born with both sets of genitalia and the doctors
decide. But
that doesn't mean that the rest of their genetic make up follows
what the
doctor chose. I have no idea how common or how rare that is.
I'm just
stating that there is some merit to people I'm not feeling
comfortable in
their own skin. Girls have different hormones for example. I
have the
feeling that once the doctor chooses what a baby's gender will
be in these
cases they just do blood work to find out later and give them
proper
medication which the kid doesn't know anything about.
Considering there are
a lot of hormonal and balance is out there like polycystic
ovarian syndrome
we can't totally write this off. Someday hopefully will be able
to figure
out why this happens, but until then only our dear Lord knows.
Personally I'm glad we'renot all cookie cutters! Sure if we
came out of
the womb and looked and thought the same life would be easy, but
God never
said life was supposed to be. There's a variety in this world
to teach us
the fruits of the Spirit. (Galatians 5:22-23)
Ericka Short
from my iPhone 6+
On Sep 15, 2017, at 5:58 PM, David Moore via Faith-Talk
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Please read this, and think about how confused you would have
been as a
child if this had happened to you. It is a lost nation we live
in!
Kindergarten Transgender Reveal, a "Pronoun Mishap" and
Abandoning
God's Word by Ken Ham on September 14, 2017 The craziness of
a
culture unhinged from the truth of God's Word continues!
Two stories, both involving the same charter school in
California,
have been in the news recently because of transgender
controversy.
And both stories highlight the confusion that results from
abandoning
the absolute authority of God's Word.
Apparently,
at the end of the school year a few months ago, a kindergarten
teacher read two kids' books dealing with transgender to her
class.
After reading the books, a male student got up and reportedly
switched into girls' clothing and was introduced to the class
as a
girl with a different name and different pronouns.
Parents had not been notified this was going to happen, and many
were
understandably upset about it, as were many of the children in
the
class who were confused and scared by it all.
Well, this academy is
back in the news again
because a first grader greeted this boy, who now identifies as a
girl, by his original male name, the name she knew him as all
last year.
Reportedly,
the first grader was reprimanded on the playground and sent to
the
principal's office to determine if the incident was bullying or
a
genuine "pronoun mishap."
Apparently, the little girl was very upset from the incident and
felt
as if she was being punished for greeting someone.
As schools and other institutions bend over backward to
accommodate
the sinful behaviors of those in the LGBT community, we will
only see
instances like this increase.
As schools and other institutions bend over backward to
accommodate
the sinful behaviors of those in the LGBT community, we will
only see
instances like this increase. It's very sad that this young
boy
(yes, he's genetically and physiologically a male), who
believes he
is a girl, is being encouraged to forsake his God-given gender
and
embrace a sinful lifestyle that he doesn't fully understand.
And
it's equally sad that other children-very young children-are
being
indoctrinated in the secular transgender ideology.
But this kind of confusion is exactly what we expect from a
culture
that has abandoned the absolute authority of God's Word.
Without an
ultimate standard for what is right and wrong, "anything
goes," just
as it did in the days of the Old Testament judges when
everyone did
what was right in their own eyes Judges 21:25).
As Christians, we can reach out to a confused world with solid,
biblical answers. There are only two sexes-male and female.
Because
we are created uniquely by God, we don't have the authority to
redefine sex and gender. We don't own ourselves; God owns us.
Yes,
because of sin and the Curse ( Genesis 3), there are going to
be
cases where physical bodies are affected by sin, and parents
and
doctors need to make informed decisions. And, yes, again
because of
sin and the Curse, there are going to be those who struggle with
gender dysphoria, even possibly from a very young age. But the
answer
is not to encourage people to reject God's design and embrace
a
sinful lifestyle, particularly children. It's to point people
toward
the hope and freedom that can be found only in Jesus Christ and
what
he did for us on the Cross.
And that's the
message this world desperately needs to hear.
Thanks for stopping by and thanks for praying, Ken
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