[Faith-Talk] nfb philosophy and faith beliefs

Sun Apr 22 22:07:26 UTC 2018

In total agreement with what you said Bill. And live in the life you want isn’t just choosing faith but choosing which denomination/non-denomination or other spiritual direction. In other words we shouldn’t be scaring away others because our views are strong they come out proselytizing rather than giving support and resources for them to continue to explore their spirituality. I know way too many blind people who won’t go into any place related to spirituality because of attitudes.

Ericka Short
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> On Apr 19, 2018, at 10:49 PM, Bill Outman via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I would like to share a few comments on this.  
> 
> The NFB tag line "Live the Life You Want" may sound self-centered, but I
> don't think it has to be inconsistent with Christianity.  It is true that we
> are often called in the Scriptures to put others ahead of ourselves and even
> deny ourselves totally, but sometimes in the church, sighted or blind, this
> self-denial can become self-destructive if it prevents us from seeking the
> help we need or keeps us some necessary growth through self-improvement.  I
> think this is a pitfall we all need to be watchful about.  
> 
> I would observe that we have free will, and also that we live in a land with
> many freedoms as well.  Choice means different things to different people,
> with or without fait.  If we interpret the life we choose to live as being
> with faith, then we are in fact living the life we want if we make that
> choice.  We must remember that both within NFB and America others are free
> to choose differently.  NFB's purpose is to help all of us exercise those
> choices fully.  This applies whether that involves a perspective on God or
> not.  No organization, not even the church, is perfect, but we work through
> these vessels to improve the lives of ourselves and others using what ever
> light of discernment we have.  
> 
> Even in the Old Testament choice is offered, as Joshua called on the people
> of Israel to choose.  
> 
> I hope this offers some illumination on the topic.  
> 
> Bill Outman 
> 
> 
> 
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> Linda that is exactly my question because nfb and Christ are both important
> to me but he overshadows the nfb for me.
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> Linda,
> I agree with your comments.  This could make for an interesting chat.
> Take care!
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 10:14 AM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> Cc: Linda Mentink
> Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] nfb philosophy and faith beliefs
> 
> Hi Sheila,
> 
> Firstly, Tom Anderson thinks this would be a good topic for a list
> conference call, rather than having a string of messages. 
> What do you all think?
> 
> Secondly, I'll weigh in here just to say a couple things. Being a secular
> organization, the NFB does not totally line up with what I believe as a
> Christian. For example, "Live the life you want" 
> leaves God out of the equation. It seems errogant to me, but that's the way
> of the world. If we are true Christians, we want to live the life God wants
> us to live. He can, and often will, stop us from living the life we want if
> our will does not line up with His.
> 
> There are many things in the NFB I can and do support: Braille, blindness
> skills, living independently, mentoring others, networking and being friends
> with many in the blindness community, being a positive and good blind role
> model, sharing resources I know about to help others in need, etc. The NFB
> philosophy has many parts, and I support those I can in good conscience.
> 
> I hope this helps. Very good thoughts from you, Tammy!
> 
> Blessings,
> 
> Linda
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sheila via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org Date sent: Sun, 8 Apr
> 2018 07:17:04 -0600
> Subject: [Faith-Talk] nfb philosophy and faith beliefs
> 
> Hi I know there are a number of articles in the Monitor about the nfb
> philosophy how does and should this work with our faith and how does or can
> both faith and philosophy work together
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