[Faith-Talk] concerning me serving and bit of my story

Sat Dec 7 01:14:11 UTC 2019

The Church of Christ is very Biblically based, sort of like the Baptist church, but the church of Christ believes the Bible is the only authority, and each congregation is autonomous from one another!
Each congregation is responsible for itself, and has elders, deacons, and ministers.
We try as much as possible, to follow the pattern of the first century church which was set up by God speaking through the authority of the apostles!
I hope that helps!
Email me when you want, Andrew!
David Moore

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From: Ericka via Faith-Talk
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 5:43 PM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
Cc: Ericka
Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] concerning me serving and bit of my story

There’s a big difference between Mormons and the church of Christ. Mormons go by Church of Christ of latter day Saints. The church of Christ is more like a Baptist church than anything else I can explain. I’ll let David tell you more. I have close friends that either grew up in the church of Christ or decided not to get confirmed in the United Church of Christ and attend church of Christ instead pier it was a very good question. I have a very good friend who is also a Mormon and they have a very different way of looking at things then fundamentalist Christians or Lutherans or Pentecostals etc. I can’t even say it’s even close to the Catholic Church either. They’re rotten people everywhere there are great people everywhere too. You just have to look for them.

Just one note – – not every church of Christ is the same either. I had more trouble being excepted when I would go to events at my friends church. I was welcome to be there but they weren’t very welcoming to me as they were to my sighted friends from other face they came in. That’s why I encouraged going to as many churches as you’re able and learning about things. Many of the worlds problems are not solvable easily because it requires humanity to abide by God’s will, not the free will to do whatever we want. 

Sorry for the paragraph in mass and using stream of consciousness. Hope I got things across well enough. Have a great weekend everyone and now I will put in a new load of laundry. So glad I don’t have to feed washers and dryer‘s quarters anymore!

Ericka Nelson

> On Dec 6, 2019, at 4:35 PM, andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> is this the morman church or actually the church of christ?
> 
>> On 12/6/19, David Moore via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Andrew!
>> I have been in some churches where I was taken to the front of the church
>> and they prayed over me right there for me to see!
>> I have been in many churches where everyone only wanted me to see.
>> They thought that was all I needed.
>> They did not see me as needing friends like anyone else!
>> All they concentrated on was for me needing to see and that was all!
>> Traci and I are in a Church of Christ, and they do not even see my
>> blindness!
>> Look for a Church of Christ in your area, because they seem to not see you
>> as blind.
>> They let me teach Sunday school, read scripture, lead adult classes, and
>> what ever I want to do!
>> They see me as just like anyone else!
>> They are the best church I have ever been in where they treat me like anyone
>> else!
>> Thank you for your story, Andrew, and I will pray for you!
>> David Moore
>> 
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>> 
>> From: andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 4:10 PM
>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
>> Cc: andrew edgcumbe
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] concerning me serving and bit of my story
>> 
>> Hi  actually there is probably 3 or 4 or 5 churches and then there are
>> churches in surrounding communities but i been to quite a few and it
>> is hard to find get my needs met.
>> 
>>> On 12/6/19, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Andrew, please write me off list. You and my husband seem to have a lot in
>>> common except he’s older than you. Perhaps between the two of you you
>>> can’t
>>> either solve this problem or at least you have a Christian friend who
>>> understands for support. Sorry were in the US. I guess Wisconsin isn’t too
>>> far from the Canadian border. LOL I will give you my husbands email and
>>> cell
>>> phone number off-line. I am going to forward your email message  So he can
>>> help you better and let him know that this person is going to contact him.
>>> 
>>> We have not been prayed over or told our faith isn’t strong enough to see
>>> too often thankfully. But this is really crazy and unless you have strong
>>> scriptural information to change their hearts and minds they will always
>>> see
>>> you as someone who sin prevents you from seeing or whatever crazy thought
>>> they have. I would go to different churches if you can and attend a couple
>>> of services, talk to the pastor and maybe do some googling about the
>>> denomination or nondenominational beliefs. Some people call his church
>>> shopping. You’ll know what feels right and where you are most excepted.
>>> Keep
>>> talking to Jesus. I know that It’s tough to do in a small community. Some
>>> communities only have two churches and not necessarily within the city
>>> limits. My heart goes out to you and so do my prayers.
>>> 
>>> Ericka Nelson
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 5, 2019, at 10:20 PM, andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi as i almost started to reply again i realized that the subject line
>>>> did not reflect my stuff what a fool i am as i want acerate subject
>>>> lines. so trying to do what we w told to do. Anyway getting into what
>>>> I said in the other emails. I think I will put some of my story or my
>>>> story.  Anyway before i talk about my struggles actually they might
>>>> end up within my story. it might be shorter then some will see. Anyway
>>>> I was born in a Christian home. I  at that time had some site but I
>>>> lost the rest of my sight at the age of 11. I  lost rest of my site at
>>>> age 11 due to retnal detachment.  after that i couldn't see colours i
>>>> could see nothing at all. I did ask the lord into my heart around age
>>>> 13. I also did that when I sat in bedroom with my mom when i prayed
>>>> the sinners prayer and asked him in.  I did end up not really praying
>>>> or paying much attention to scripture or prayer   some time after
>>>> that. I  did come back running back to Christ after that.  I asked the
>>>> lord redeadicated my life back to christ actually. I actually  after
>>>> that got baptized  and around the time of my baptism I  was going to a
>>>> school for the blind I didn't have an easy time of it when I went to
>>>> the school for the blind the year and a half i was there.  had hardest
>>>> time with room mates. and just being bullied and things. I never was
>>>> bullied much until i went to the school for the blind in Brantford.
>>>> So i did finally graduate from school for the blind  which i was so
>>>> glad to be able to do.  After that I did go through a month or two
>>>> month employment program i did get a small job at a furniture factory.
>>>> I actually ran into struggles then even one night I felt really down i
>>>> felt like I had no real friends I had thoughts of wanting to end my
>>>> life.  but no  plan to do anything though.  but anyway a person who i
>>>> had been talking to that night  reported me to the police and the cops
>>>> came to check on me to make sure i was safe. I did go  into counciling
>>>> actually. I  had something happen to similar affect happen 2 or 3
>>>> years later when somebody from the blind community was involved who
>>>> called cops that is but anyway I have had allot of struggles fitting
>>>> into church over  all i could go to groups bible studdies or sunday
>>>> morning stuff but it was problematic when it comes to those serv
>>>> letting me serve there were times pastor almost gave me that glimmer
>>>> of hope when it came to serving then was not long before that was
>>>> taken from me as he brought up my blindness. even recently i was
>>>> talking to somebody who is blind who said that pastors can be hezatant
>>>> on letting the blind serve.  I have been excluded from certain
>>>> activities when people get into clicks. Friendships is something I
>>>> have really needed. I was told by some i needed a healing and that the
>>>> devil stole my sight.  I also have had experiences where even some
>>>> places  i tried to vollunteer at wouldn't let me even. I do live in a
>>>> small town. Anyway just september 2019 I had another issue i got
>>>> talking to somebody i may have said i was going to give up but can't
>>>> recall what i said but at 1 30 the police had showed up to my place
>>>> now let me back track before i we go any further. I used to live with
>>>> my parents.  in 2016 I  moved into town and get bit of help from some
>>>> support staff but for most part i am fairly independent although i
>>>> have desire to do even more independently for myself. but anyway cops
>>>> came around 1 30  in the morning. I  got knock from staff and in came
>>>> the two cops behind him first off staff said are you feeling okay and
>>>> then he said somebody is here to see you was his words. Anyway  they
>>>> talked to me for a bit but anyway my building soupervisor came to chat
>>>> with me the next morning.  My life has not been easy.  I been
>>>> searching for stuff and often what I been feeling is like something is
>>>> missing in my life. when it comes to friends or something like that.
>>>> I  am trying to find my purpose in life and it has been hard. I  been
>>>> needing some sort of purpose in my life and stuff like that and need
>>>> ways of  vollunteer and  things i can do as i need things i can do so
>>>> I can be both fophiled and things to do that have a purpose to them.
>>>> I have not parked myself in a particular church and i really unsure if
>>>> i really fit in any church at all it often feels that way to me
>>>> anyway.  and it is like people can't help me be involved in a sence
>>>> and i don't get anywhere when i bring it up. as I said i live in a
>>>> small town so it can be much harder to find things to do and small
>>>> tons may or may not have much.  As i said I really going to church to
>>>> church sort of in a sence as i have trouble finding some sence of
>>>> belonging as i both want to serve and want to be around or have
>>>> connection with christian people my age. I am 32 years old.  and i
>>>> want to connect with people my age.  i been searching for answers and
>>>> searching for needs of mine at timeas actually quite often I feel
>>>> restless and stuff like that.  I  am connected with canadian nfb
>>>> canadian version but i have not gotten anywhere with them it is kind
>>>> of hard when somebody isn't here to know how to help me inless they
>>>> are there near me.  There is no blind groups in my area that get
>>>> together and stuff like that.  Thanks for letting me share.
>>>> 
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