[Faith-Talk] concerning me serving and bit of my story

Sat Dec 7 01:26:32 UTC 2019

one of the things is this i have had experiences where  i feel so miss
understood. a blind person is not dumb nor bad nor anything like that.
I just want to be able to serve and help in some way.

On 12/6/19, David Moore via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> The Church of Christ is very Biblically based, sort of like the Baptist
> church, but the church of Christ believes the Bible is the only authority,
> and each congregation is autonomous from one another!
> Each congregation is responsible for itself, and has elders, deacons, and
> ministers.
> We try as much as possible, to follow the pattern of the first century
> church which was set up by God speaking through the authority of the
> apostles!
> I hope that helps!
> Email me when you want, Andrew!
> David Moore
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Ericka via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 5:43 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> Cc: Ericka
> Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] concerning me serving and bit of my story
>
> There’s a big difference between Mormons and the church of Christ. Mormons
> go by Church of Christ of latter day Saints. The church of Christ is more
> like a Baptist church than anything else I can explain. I’ll let David tell
> you more. I have close friends that either grew up in the church of Christ
> or decided not to get confirmed in the United Church of Christ and attend
> church of Christ instead pier it was a very good question. I have a very
> good friend who is also a Mormon and they have a very different way of
> looking at things then fundamentalist Christians or Lutherans or
> Pentecostals etc. I can’t even say it’s even close to the Catholic Church
> either. They’re rotten people everywhere there are great people everywhere
> too. You just have to look for them.
>
> Just one note – – not every church of Christ is the same either. I had more
> trouble being excepted when I would go to events at my friends church. I was
> welcome to be there but they weren’t very welcoming to me as they were to my
> sighted friends from other face they came in. That’s why I encouraged going
> to as many churches as you’re able and learning about things. Many of the
> worlds problems are not solvable easily because it requires humanity to
> abide by God’s will, not the free will to do whatever we want.
>
> Sorry for the paragraph in mass and using stream of consciousness. Hope I
> got things across well enough. Have a great weekend everyone and now I will
> put in a new load of laundry. So glad I don’t have to feed washers and
> dryer‘s quarters anymore!
>
> Ericka Nelson
>
>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 4:35 PM, andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> is this the morman church or actually the church of christ?
>>
>>> On 12/6/19, David Moore via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Andrew!
>>> I have been in some churches where I was taken to the front of the church
>>> and they prayed over me right there for me to see!
>>> I have been in many churches where everyone only wanted me to see.
>>> They thought that was all I needed.
>>> They did not see me as needing friends like anyone else!
>>> All they concentrated on was for me needing to see and that was all!
>>> Traci and I are in a Church of Christ, and they do not even see my
>>> blindness!
>>> Look for a Church of Christ in your area, because they seem to not see
>>> you
>>> as blind.
>>> They let me teach Sunday school, read scripture, lead adult classes, and
>>> what ever I want to do!
>>> They see me as just like anyone else!
>>> They are the best church I have ever been in where they treat me like
>>> anyone
>>> else!
>>> Thank you for your story, Andrew, and I will pray for you!
>>> David Moore
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>
>>> From: andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk
>>> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 4:10 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
>>> Cc: andrew edgcumbe
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] concerning me serving and bit of my story
>>>
>>> Hi  actually there is probably 3 or 4 or 5 churches and then there are
>>> churches in surrounding communities but i been to quite a few and it
>>> is hard to find get my needs met.
>>>
>>>> On 12/6/19, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Andrew, please write me off list. You and my husband seem to have a lot
>>>> in
>>>> common except he’s older than you. Perhaps between the two of you you
>>>> can’t
>>>> either solve this problem or at least you have a Christian friend who
>>>> understands for support. Sorry were in the US. I guess Wisconsin isn’t
>>>> too
>>>> far from the Canadian border. LOL I will give you my husbands email and
>>>> cell
>>>> phone number off-line. I am going to forward your email message  So he
>>>> can
>>>> help you better and let him know that this person is going to contact
>>>> him.
>>>>
>>>> We have not been prayed over or told our faith isn’t strong enough to
>>>> see
>>>> too often thankfully. But this is really crazy and unless you have
>>>> strong
>>>> scriptural information to change their hearts and minds they will always
>>>> see
>>>> you as someone who sin prevents you from seeing or whatever crazy
>>>> thought
>>>> they have. I would go to different churches if you can and attend a
>>>> couple
>>>> of services, talk to the pastor and maybe do some googling about the
>>>> denomination or nondenominational beliefs. Some people call his church
>>>> shopping. You’ll know what feels right and where you are most excepted.
>>>> Keep
>>>> talking to Jesus. I know that It’s tough to do in a small community.
>>>> Some
>>>> communities only have two churches and not necessarily within the city
>>>> limits. My heart goes out to you and so do my prayers.
>>>>
>>>> Ericka Nelson
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 5, 2019, at 10:20 PM, andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk
>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi as i almost started to reply again i realized that the subject line
>>>>> did not reflect my stuff what a fool i am as i want acerate subject
>>>>> lines. so trying to do what we w told to do. Anyway getting into what
>>>>> I said in the other emails. I think I will put some of my story or my
>>>>> story.  Anyway before i talk about my struggles actually they might
>>>>> end up within my story. it might be shorter then some will see. Anyway
>>>>> I was born in a Christian home. I  at that time had some site but I
>>>>> lost the rest of my sight at the age of 11. I  lost rest of my site at
>>>>> age 11 due to retnal detachment.  after that i couldn't see colours i
>>>>> could see nothing at all. I did ask the lord into my heart around age
>>>>> 13. I also did that when I sat in bedroom with my mom when i prayed
>>>>> the sinners prayer and asked him in.  I did end up not really praying
>>>>> or paying much attention to scripture or prayer   some time after
>>>>> that. I  did come back running back to Christ after that.  I asked the
>>>>> lord redeadicated my life back to christ actually. I actually  after
>>>>> that got baptized  and around the time of my baptism I  was going to a
>>>>> school for the blind I didn't have an easy time of it when I went to
>>>>> the school for the blind the year and a half i was there.  had hardest
>>>>> time with room mates. and just being bullied and things. I never was
>>>>> bullied much until i went to the school for the blind in Brantford.
>>>>> So i did finally graduate from school for the blind  which i was so
>>>>> glad to be able to do.  After that I did go through a month or two
>>>>> month employment program i did get a small job at a furniture factory.
>>>>> I actually ran into struggles then even one night I felt really down i
>>>>> felt like I had no real friends I had thoughts of wanting to end my
>>>>> life.  but no  plan to do anything though.  but anyway a person who i
>>>>> had been talking to that night  reported me to the police and the cops
>>>>> came to check on me to make sure i was safe. I did go  into counciling
>>>>> actually. I  had something happen to similar affect happen 2 or 3
>>>>> years later when somebody from the blind community was involved who
>>>>> called cops that is but anyway I have had allot of struggles fitting
>>>>> into church over  all i could go to groups bible studdies or sunday
>>>>> morning stuff but it was problematic when it comes to those serv
>>>>> letting me serve there were times pastor almost gave me that glimmer
>>>>> of hope when it came to serving then was not long before that was
>>>>> taken from me as he brought up my blindness. even recently i was
>>>>> talking to somebody who is blind who said that pastors can be hezatant
>>>>> on letting the blind serve.  I have been excluded from certain
>>>>> activities when people get into clicks. Friendships is something I
>>>>> have really needed. I was told by some i needed a healing and that the
>>>>> devil stole my sight.  I also have had experiences where even some
>>>>> places  i tried to vollunteer at wouldn't let me even. I do live in a
>>>>> small town. Anyway just september 2019 I had another issue i got
>>>>> talking to somebody i may have said i was going to give up but can't
>>>>> recall what i said but at 1 30 the police had showed up to my place
>>>>> now let me back track before i we go any further. I used to live with
>>>>> my parents.  in 2016 I  moved into town and get bit of help from some
>>>>> support staff but for most part i am fairly independent although i
>>>>> have desire to do even more independently for myself. but anyway cops
>>>>> came around 1 30  in the morning. I  got knock from staff and in came
>>>>> the two cops behind him first off staff said are you feeling okay and
>>>>> then he said somebody is here to see you was his words. Anyway  they
>>>>> talked to me for a bit but anyway my building soupervisor came to chat
>>>>> with me the next morning.  My life has not been easy.  I been
>>>>> searching for stuff and often what I been feeling is like something is
>>>>> missing in my life. when it comes to friends or something like that.
>>>>> I  am trying to find my purpose in life and it has been hard. I  been
>>>>> needing some sort of purpose in my life and stuff like that and need
>>>>> ways of  vollunteer and  things i can do as i need things i can do so
>>>>> I can be both fophiled and things to do that have a purpose to them.
>>>>> I have not parked myself in a particular church and i really unsure if
>>>>> i really fit in any church at all it often feels that way to me
>>>>> anyway.  and it is like people can't help me be involved in a sence
>>>>> and i don't get anywhere when i bring it up. as I said i live in a
>>>>> small town so it can be much harder to find things to do and small
>>>>> tons may or may not have much.  As i said I really going to church to
>>>>> church sort of in a sence as i have trouble finding some sence of
>>>>> belonging as i both want to serve and want to be around or have
>>>>> connection with christian people my age. I am 32 years old.  and i
>>>>> want to connect with people my age.  i been searching for answers and
>>>>> searching for needs of mine at timeas actually quite often I feel
>>>>> restless and stuff like that.  I  am connected with canadian nfb
>>>>> canadian version but i have not gotten anywhere with them it is kind
>>>>> of hard when somebody isn't here to know how to help me inless they
>>>>> are there near me.  There is no blind groups in my area that get
>>>>> together and stuff like that.  Thanks for letting me share.
>>>>>
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