[Faith-Talk] concerning me serving and bit of my story

Sat Dec 7 02:03:16 UTC 2019

Yes, I totally understand!
When are you misunderstood the most?
In what situations do you feel that people are not understanding you?
I will be on here later, and we can talk some more!
David Moore
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From: andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 8:53 PM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
Cc: andrew edgcumbe
Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] concerning me serving and bit of my story

well for me it depends what you mean by communicating my needs it
depends who I am around and  stuff like that. I use a white cane
myself actually. Sometimes i could say the same thing about out going
i am i can both be out going but sometimes not so out going depends on
my day. I not always the type to let people come to me only as I know
it is a two way streak. for me I  just depends on situation and it is
hard f to be comfortable with people sometimes  if i can't seem to get
my point across it depends on the situation.

On 12/6/19, David Moore via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Do you communicate your needs well to people?
> Do you use a cane or dog?
> Are you outgoing or more shy?
> I am not at all being nosey, but I am just trying to get to know how to help
> you and give you suggestions!
> I am so glad we can talk!
> David Moore
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 8:27 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> Cc: andrew edgcumbe
> Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] concerning me serving and bit of my story
>
> one of the things is this i have had experiences where  i feel so miss
> understood. a blind person is not dumb nor bad nor anything like that.
> I just want to be able to serve and help in some way.
>
> On 12/6/19, David Moore via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> The Church of Christ is very Biblically based, sort of like the Baptist
>> church, but the church of Christ believes the Bible is the only authority,
>> and each congregation is autonomous from one another!
>> Each congregation is responsible for itself, and has elders, deacons, and
>> ministers.
>> We try as much as possible, to follow the pattern of the first century
>> church which was set up by God speaking through the authority of the
>> apostles!
>> I hope that helps!
>> Email me when you want, Andrew!
>> David Moore
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: Ericka via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 5:43 PM
>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
>> Cc: Ericka
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] concerning me serving and bit of my story
>>
>> There’s a big difference between Mormons and the church of Christ. Mormons
>> go by Church of Christ of latter day Saints. The church of Christ is more
>> like a Baptist church than anything else I can explain. I’ll let David
>> tell
>> you more. I have close friends that either grew up in the church of Christ
>> or decided not to get confirmed in the United Church of Christ and attend
>> church of Christ instead pier it was a very good question. I have a very
>> good friend who is also a Mormon and they have a very different way of
>> looking at things then fundamentalist Christians or Lutherans or
>> Pentecostals etc. I can’t even say it’s even close to the Catholic Church
>> either. They’re rotten people everywhere there are great people everywhere
>> too. You just have to look for them.
>>
>> Just one note – – not every church of Christ is the same either. I had
>> more
>> trouble being excepted when I would go to events at my friends church. I
>> was
>> welcome to be there but they weren’t very welcoming to me as they were to
>> my
>> sighted friends from other face they came in. That’s why I encouraged
>> going
>> to as many churches as you’re able and learning about things. Many of the
>> worlds problems are not solvable easily because it requires humanity to
>> abide by God’s will, not the free will to do whatever we want.
>>
>> Sorry for the paragraph in mass and using stream of consciousness. Hope I
>> got things across well enough. Have a great weekend everyone and now I
>> will
>> put in a new load of laundry. So glad I don’t have to feed washers and
>> dryer‘s quarters anymore!
>>
>> Ericka Nelson
>>
>>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 4:35 PM, andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> is this the morman church or actually the church of christ?
>>>
>>>> On 12/6/19, David Moore via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi Andrew!
>>>> I have been in some churches where I was taken to the front of the
>>>> church
>>>> and they prayed over me right there for me to see!
>>>> I have been in many churches where everyone only wanted me to see.
>>>> They thought that was all I needed.
>>>> They did not see me as needing friends like anyone else!
>>>> All they concentrated on was for me needing to see and that was all!
>>>> Traci and I are in a Church of Christ, and they do not even see my
>>>> blindness!
>>>> Look for a Church of Christ in your area, because they seem to not see
>>>> you
>>>> as blind.
>>>> They let me teach Sunday school, read scripture, lead adult classes, and
>>>> what ever I want to do!
>>>> They see me as just like anyone else!
>>>> They are the best church I have ever been in where they treat me like
>>>> anyone
>>>> else!
>>>> Thank you for your story, Andrew, and I will pray for you!
>>>> David Moore
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>>
>>>> From: andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 4:10 PM
>>>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
>>>> Cc: andrew edgcumbe
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] concerning me serving and bit of my story
>>>>
>>>> Hi  actually there is probably 3 or 4 or 5 churches and then there are
>>>> churches in surrounding communities but i been to quite a few and it
>>>> is hard to find get my needs met.
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/6/19, Ericka via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Andrew, please write me off list. You and my husband seem to have a lot
>>>>> in
>>>>> common except he’s older than you. Perhaps between the two of you you
>>>>> can’t
>>>>> either solve this problem or at least you have a Christian friend who
>>>>> understands for support. Sorry were in the US. I guess Wisconsin isn’t
>>>>> too
>>>>> far from the Canadian border. LOL I will give you my husbands email and
>>>>> cell
>>>>> phone number off-line. I am going to forward your email message  So he
>>>>> can
>>>>> help you better and let him know that this person is going to contact
>>>>> him.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have not been prayed over or told our faith isn’t strong enough to
>>>>> see
>>>>> too often thankfully. But this is really crazy and unless you have
>>>>> strong
>>>>> scriptural information to change their hearts and minds they will
>>>>> always
>>>>> see
>>>>> you as someone who sin prevents you from seeing or whatever crazy
>>>>> thought
>>>>> they have. I would go to different churches if you can and attend a
>>>>> couple
>>>>> of services, talk to the pastor and maybe do some googling about the
>>>>> denomination or nondenominational beliefs. Some people call his church
>>>>> shopping. You’ll know what feels right and where you are most excepted.
>>>>> Keep
>>>>> talking to Jesus. I know that It’s tough to do in a small community.
>>>>> Some
>>>>> communities only have two churches and not necessarily within the city
>>>>> limits. My heart goes out to you and so do my prayers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ericka Nelson
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2019, at 10:20 PM, andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk
>>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi as i almost started to reply again i realized that the subject
>>>>>> line
>>>>>> did not reflect my stuff what a fool i am as i want acerate subject
>>>>>> lines. so trying to do what we w told to do. Anyway getting into what
>>>>>> I said in the other emails. I think I will put some of my story or my
>>>>>> story.  Anyway before i talk about my struggles actually they might
>>>>>> end up within my story. it might be shorter then some will see. Anyway
>>>>>> I was born in a Christian home. I  at that time had some site but I
>>>>>> lost the rest of my sight at the age of 11. I  lost rest of my site at
>>>>>> age 11 due to retnal detachment.  after that i couldn't see colours i
>>>>>> could see nothing at all. I did ask the lord into my heart around age
>>>>>> 13. I also did that when I sat in bedroom with my mom when i prayed
>>>>>> the sinners prayer and asked him in.  I did end up not really praying
>>>>>> or paying much attention to scripture or prayer   some time after
>>>>>> that. I  did come back running back to Christ after that.  I asked the
>>>>>> lord redeadicated my life back to christ actually. I actually  after
>>>>>> that got baptized  and around the time of my baptism I  was going to a
>>>>>> school for the blind I didn't have an easy time of it when I went to
>>>>>> the school for the blind the year and a half i was there.  had hardest
>>>>>> time with room mates. and just being bullied and things. I never was
>>>>>> bullied much until i went to the school for the blind in Brantford.
>>>>>> So i did finally graduate from school for the blind  which i was so
>>>>>> glad to be able to do.  After that I did go through a month or two
>>>>>> month employment program i did get a small job at a furniture factory.
>>>>>> I actually ran into struggles then even one night I felt really down i
>>>>>> felt like I had no real friends I had thoughts of wanting to end my
>>>>>> life.  but no  plan to do anything though.  but anyway a person who i
>>>>>> had been talking to that night  reported me to the police and the cops
>>>>>> came to check on me to make sure i was safe. I did go  into counciling
>>>>>> actually. I  had something happen to similar affect happen 2 or 3
>>>>>> years later when somebody from the blind community was involved who
>>>>>> called cops that is but anyway I have had allot of struggles fitting
>>>>>> into church over  all i could go to groups bible studdies or sunday
>>>>>> morning stuff but it was problematic when it comes to those serv
>>>>>> letting me serve there were times pastor almost gave me that glimmer
>>>>>> of hope when it came to serving then was not long before that was
>>>>>> taken from me as he brought up my blindness. even recently i was
>>>>>> talking to somebody who is blind who said that pastors can be hezatant
>>>>>> on letting the blind serve.  I have been excluded from certain
>>>>>> activities when people get into clicks. Friendships is something I
>>>>>> have really needed. I was told by some i needed a healing and that the
>>>>>> devil stole my sight.  I also have had experiences where even some
>>>>>> places  i tried to vollunteer at wouldn't let me even. I do live in a
>>>>>> small town. Anyway just september 2019 I had another issue i got
>>>>>> talking to somebody i may have said i was going to give up but can't
>>>>>> recall what i said but at 1 30 the police had showed up to my place
>>>>>> now let me back track before i we go any further. I used to live with
>>>>>> my parents.  in 2016 I  moved into town and get bit of help from some
>>>>>> support staff but for most part i am fairly independent although i
>>>>>> have desire to do even more independently for myself. but anyway cops
>>>>>> came around 1 30  in the morning. I  got knock from staff and in came
>>>>>> the two cops behind him first off staff said are you feeling okay and
>>>>>> then he said somebody is here to see you was his words. Anyway  they
>>>>>> talked to me for a bit but anyway my building soupervisor came to chat
>>>>>> with me the next morning.  My life has not been easy.  I been
>>>>>> searching for stuff and often what I been feeling is like something is
>>>>>> missing in my life. when it comes to friends or something like that.
>>>>>> I  am trying to find my purpose in life and it has been hard. I  been
>>>>>> needing some sort of purpose in my life and stuff like that and need
>>>>>> ways of  vollunteer and  things i can do as i need things i can do so
>>>>>> I can be both fophiled and things to do that have a purpose to them.
>>>>>> I have not parked myself in a particular church and i really unsure if
>>>>>> i really fit in any church at all it often feels that way to me
>>>>>> anyway.  and it is like people can't help me be involved in a sence
>>>>>> and i don't get anywhere when i bring it up. as I said i live in a
>>>>>> small town so it can be much harder to find things to do and small
>>>>>> tons may or may not have much.  As i said I really going to church to
>>>>>> church sort of in a sence as i have trouble finding some sence of
>>>>>> belonging as i both want to serve and want to be around or have
>>>>>> connection with christian people my age. I am 32 years old.  and i
>>>>>> want to connect with people my age.  i been searching for answers and
>>>>>> searching for needs of mine at timeas actually quite often I feel
>>>>>> restless and stuff like that.  I  am connected with canadian nfb
>>>>>> canadian version but i have not gotten anywhere with them it is kind
>>>>>> of hard when somebody isn't here to know how to help me inless they
>>>>>> are there near me.  There is no blind groups in my area that get
>>>>>> together and stuff like that.  Thanks for letting me share.
>>>>>>
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