[Faith-Talk] serving in church

Thu Nov 6 12:16:54 UTC 2025

PJ you have seen my posts now  I have been hurt as well I know exactly how
you feel. I fully know what you are going through.
I care about you as well as Judy does to and all the others.
I am in the same boat as you.

On Thu, Nov 6, 2025 at 1:34 AM Pj Navarro via Faith-Talk <
faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Let’s face it, I’m 5 foot 5, almost blind due to RP, & usually the outcast
> since childhood. I’ve always tried talking to God but I’m convinced He has
> his favorites & I’m not one of them. No matter how hard I try, I end up
> alone & jobless. If I work hard whether it be for the job or to win the
> heart of my crush, it all goes unnoticed & unappreciated. At age 32, I’m
> getting sick & tired being a nobody that has nobody. I would try to let the
> Bible app read to me as I followed along with my tunnel vision, but it’s
> pointless when find myself zoning out, I’ve always had trouble focusing
> which is why I dropped out of college a decade ago, so now I just stay at
> home either watching TikTok or TV. Home where I’m safe from heartbreak &
> God’s cruel punishments. I’m a failure who depends on family financially
> now. The only joy I feel is when my dog is excited to see me. And when I’m
> drinking beer. I love beer so much, it helps me not be so socially awkward
> at family gatherings, where I know they badmouth me once I’m gone, like I
> don’t constantly feel shame for the man I’ve turned out to be. If Jesus did
> come back, he’d turn his head away from me, from PJ the Loser.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2025 at 11:55 PM Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello, Andrew and PJ,
> >
> > My heart goes out to both you guys, and am very sorry for the church
> > experiences you have gone through.
> >
> > All I can say is that God does have a special place for each of us, a
> task
> > for each of us, and when we're hurting, can give us the very special
> brand
> > of TLC tailored to the individual needs. I say this because the Bible
> > documents it, and have experienced it.
> >
> > God knows you, sees you, and loves you, no doubt. The problem comes when
> > people get in the way, not knowing what to do, how to care, or maybe not
> > reaching out as they should. There are churches that do not do a good job
> > of community care, let alone ministering to one another. However, there
> are
> > churches that are fantastic at it.
> >
> > I just see a couple of very hurting guys that could use some
> > encouragement, and know you are seen by God.
> >
> > PJ, like you say, churches do run on money, it is the vehicle we have to
> > get things done in this fallen world, but the priority should not be the
> > money. We had a pastor once that said, "It is fine to have money, as long
> > as your money doesn't have you." If the pastor is seeking God, that
> pastor
> > will know best how to lead the congregation and outreach to the
> community,
> > where money is something they have to deal with, yet not the focus of the
> > church and its ministry.
> >
> > I'll bet everyone on this list has a "church burn" story.
> >
> > The question that popped into my head is, are you guys in regular,
> > communication with God, through conversation and prayer? Just something
> to
> > ponder. Reading the Bible consistently, that really does help so much, as
> > God also speaks through his word.
> >
> > When raising kids, the one place I could go to be alone was when taking a
> > shower, and that has become my God-space over the years.
> >
> > Of course, I don't know your whole situations, but I do care and wanted
> to
> > reach out with encouragement, not platitudes.
> >
> > Here are some resources I love.
> > www.crosswalk.com
> > A site with lots of devotionals, articles, and Bible studies and videos.
> >
> > Rafa Bible Radio, 24/7 Bible stream for listening.
> > https://www.radio-uk.co.uk/rafa-bible-radio-english
> >
> > Rafa Bible Radio also has apps on Apple and on the Android play store.
> >
> > There is also an app called YouVersion, that offers guided daily
> > scripture, prayer, Bible versions, videos, audio, and tons of Bible
> studies
> > you can do either privately or online with friends. It is on its way to
> > having a billion members worldwide, has an online community where you can
> > pray together and do studies together if you wish. You can invite friends
> > to join you there, like a Christian Facebook. I use the app on my phone
> and
> > on my Selvas BS6 tablet.
> >
> > You can also access it from the PC.
> > https://www.bible.com/
> >
> > God bless you both, and glad you wrote in!
> >
> >
> >
> > sent from Judy's Android braille tablet
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Pj Navarro via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Wednesday, November 05, 2025 08:04 PM
> > To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion" <
> > faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > CC: Pj Navarro <psnj16 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] serving in church
> >
> > The church only cares for money. My mom & dog are my only friends too.
> > On Wed, Nov 5, 2025 at 9:56 PM andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk <
> > faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > > Hi  everybody
> > > I hope you all are doing well and that you all are very blessed.
> > > I know i brought this topic up before but before I either read things
> > wrong
> > > or I just had some miss understandings.
> > > However I  would try again and just explaine what I have done and stuff
> > > like that.
> > > It continues to be a challenge for me.
> > > and yes I have contacted pastor and actually contacted other pastors
> > about
> > > vollunteering and my desire to serve.
> > > But what has been happening is nobody is getting back to me and  it is
> > > proving to be very difficault.
> > > Yes I have been speciffic about what kind of things  Like I mentioned
> > > reading of scripture and greeting for example but however what is
> > happening
> > > is i am not getting any responces at all I sent one email just the
> other
> > > week then i sent another last week i was even trying to see about
> > > opportunities at other churches but basically i hit a rock wall because
> > > nobody has gotten back to me.
> > >  My mom and I have met with somebody even and honestly it just didn't
> get
> > > me anywhere.
> > >
> > > It kind of has gone hand in hand with lack of vollunteer opportunities
> in
> > > my area and the challenge I have been met with when it comes to that.
> > >
> > > The other thing I have been finding is quite a challenge is that I
> really
> > > been struggling with the fellowship part of things. The only time
> people
> > > approach me is to offer help that in itself isn't bad but beyond that
> it
> > is
> > > like i just get left on my own and no conversation starts up at all.
> > > One of the things i find is that and yes somebody is probably going to
> > > point out it is a two way streak connection has to go both ways.
> > > I do try to do that though.
> > > Sometimes what I find or have found is that I just don't do well with
> > bunch
> > > of voices at once like a crouded situation. I find hearing bunch of
> > voices
> > > all at once can be very confusing for me.  even when somebody has
> talked
> > to
> > > me it can really be hard to gaine full concentration if somebody does
> > talk
> > > to me that is what I find.
> > >
> > > I have found lately i have had allot of discouragement towards
> attending
> > a
> > > church and when I do go  that is it feels like I been pushing myself
> out
> > > the door or dragging myself out the door.
> > > The thing i been finding it feels like  or better way to put it i just
> > > don't sence I belong in church sometimes because of all the
> frusterations
> > > that come with attending church or finding those ways to serve like I
> > > mentioned above and it has been very hard to find the modivation to go.
> > > I have often found that i been getting depressed allot some days like i
> > > almost feel like don't want to get out of bed.
> > > I really only get out of bed to take care of my guide dog that is what
> it
> > > feels like to me in a sence.
> > > Like I have done allot of tasks in school as i was in like couple
> > different
> > > hands on classes.
> > > I had a real good EA stands for educational assistant who knew how to
> > adapt
> > > things for me and for which whom I still talk to to this day.
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