[Faith-Talk] serving in church

Thu Nov 6 22:29:17 UTC 2025

To everyone here who has had issues with a church or religion, a pastor, or a congregation, first of all, God lives within each of us, not in a church, or a religion, or a pastor or a congregation.

If you are feeling that God doesn't love or care about you and that you are not important to Him, then it is time for therapy with a psychoanalytical or psychodynamic therapist.  It is time to get to the root core of your pain and get your trauma healed whether it be conscious or unconscious, and you will need a well-trained psychoanalytical therapist to help you.

God is here for each of us, but if we have blocked Him out because of our childhood trauma, there is nothing He can do until we heal from that trauma.

He gave us free will.

Many Blessings, Love and Light !!!   I hope you find your truth.

Namaste  !!!
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From: Faith-Talk <faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> on behalf of Pj Navarro via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2025 1:33 AM
To: Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com>
Cc: Pj Navarro <psnj16 at gmail.com>; faith-talk at nfbnet.org <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] serving in church

Let’s face it, I’m 5 foot 5, almost blind due to RP, & usually the outcast
since childhood. I’ve always tried talking to God but I’m convinced He has
his favorites & I’m not one of them. No matter how hard I try, I end up
alone & jobless. If I work hard whether it be for the job or to win the
heart of my crush, it all goes unnoticed & unappreciated. At age 32, I’m
getting sick & tired being a nobody that has nobody. I would try to let the
Bible app read to me as I followed along with my tunnel vision, but it’s
pointless when find myself zoning out, I’ve always had trouble focusing
which is why I dropped out of college a decade ago, so now I just stay at
home either watching TikTok or TV. Home where I’m safe from heartbreak &
God’s cruel punishments. I’m a failure who depends on family financially
now. The only joy I feel is when my dog is excited to see me. And when I’m
drinking beer. I love beer so much, it helps me not be so socially awkward
at family gatherings, where I know they badmouth me once I’m gone, like I
don’t constantly feel shame for the man I’ve turned out to be. If Jesus did
come back, he’d turn his head away from me, from PJ the Loser.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2025 at 11:55 PM Judy Jones <sonshines59 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello, Andrew and PJ,
>
> My heart goes out to both you guys, and am very sorry for the church
> experiences you have gone through.
>
> All I can say is that God does have a special place for each of us, a task
> for each of us, and when we're hurting, can give us the very special brand
> of TLC tailored to the individual needs. I say this because the Bible
> documents it, and have experienced it.
>
> God knows you, sees you, and loves you, no doubt. The problem comes when
> people get in the way, not knowing what to do, how to care, or maybe not
> reaching out as they should. There are churches that do not do a good job
> of community care, let alone ministering to one another. However, there are
> churches that are fantastic at it.
>
> I just see a couple of very hurting guys that could use some
> encouragement, and know you are seen by God.
>
> PJ, like you say, churches do run on money, it is the vehicle we have to
> get things done in this fallen world, but the priority should not be the
> money. We had a pastor once that said, "It is fine to have money, as long
> as your money doesn't have you." If the pastor is seeking God, that pastor
> will know best how to lead the congregation and outreach to the community,
> where money is something they have to deal with, yet not the focus of the
> church and its ministry.
>
> I'll bet everyone on this list has a "church burn" story.
>
> The question that popped into my head is, are you guys in regular,
> communication with God, through conversation and prayer? Just something to
> ponder. Reading the Bible consistently, that really does help so much, as
> God also speaks through his word.
>
> When raising kids, the one place I could go to be alone was when taking a
> shower, and that has become my God-space over the years.
>
> Of course, I don't know your whole situations, but I do care and wanted to
> reach out with encouragement, not platitudes.
>
> Here are some resources I love.
> www.crosswalk.com<http://www.crosswalk.com>
> A site with lots of devotionals, articles, and Bible studies and videos.
>
> Rafa Bible Radio, 24/7 Bible stream for listening.
> https://www.radio-uk.co.uk/rafa-bible-radio-english
>
> Rafa Bible Radio also has apps on Apple and on the Android play store.
>
> There is also an app called YouVersion, that offers guided daily
> scripture, prayer, Bible versions, videos, audio, and tons of Bible studies
> you can do either privately or online with friends. It is on its way to
> having a billion members worldwide, has an online community where you can
> pray together and do studies together if you wish. You can invite friends
> to join you there, like a Christian Facebook. I use the app on my phone and
> on my Selvas BS6 tablet.
>
> You can also access it from the PC.
> https://www.bible.com/
>
> God bless you both, and glad you wrote in!
>
>
>
> sent from Judy's Android braille tablet
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pj Navarro via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Wednesday, November 05, 2025 08:04 PM
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion" <
> faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> CC: Pj Navarro <psnj16 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-Talk] serving in church
>
> The church only cares for money. My mom & dog are my only friends too.
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2025 at 9:56 PM andrew edgcumbe via Faith-Talk <
> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Hi  everybody
> > I hope you all are doing well and that you all are very blessed.
> > I know i brought this topic up before but before I either read things
> wrong
> > or I just had some miss understandings.
> > However I  would try again and just explaine what I have done and stuff
> > like that.
> > It continues to be a challenge for me.
> > and yes I have contacted pastor and actually contacted other pastors
> about
> > vollunteering and my desire to serve.
> > But what has been happening is nobody is getting back to me and  it is
> > proving to be very difficault.
> > Yes I have been speciffic about what kind of things  Like I mentioned
> > reading of scripture and greeting for example but however what is
> happening
> > is i am not getting any responces at all I sent one email just the other
> > week then i sent another last week i was even trying to see about
> > opportunities at other churches but basically i hit a rock wall because
> > nobody has gotten back to me.
> >  My mom and I have met with somebody even and honestly it just didn't get
> > me anywhere.
> >
> > It kind of has gone hand in hand with lack of vollunteer opportunities in
> > my area and the challenge I have been met with when it comes to that.
> >
> > The other thing I have been finding is quite a challenge is that I really
> > been struggling with the fellowship part of things. The only time people
> > approach me is to offer help that in itself isn't bad but beyond that it
> is
> > like i just get left on my own and no conversation starts up at all.
> > One of the things i find is that and yes somebody is probably going to
> > point out it is a two way streak connection has to go both ways.
> > I do try to do that though.
> > Sometimes what I find or have found is that I just don't do well with
> bunch
> > of voices at once like a crouded situation. I find hearing bunch of
> voices
> > all at once can be very confusing for me.  even when somebody has talked
> to
> > me it can really be hard to gaine full concentration if somebody does
> talk
> > to me that is what I find.
> >
> > I have found lately i have had allot of discouragement towards attending
> a
> > church and when I do go  that is it feels like I been pushing myself out
> > the door or dragging myself out the door.
> > The thing i been finding it feels like  or better way to put it i just
> > don't sence I belong in church sometimes because of all the frusterations
> > that come with attending church or finding those ways to serve like I
> > mentioned above and it has been very hard to find the modivation to go.
> > I have often found that i been getting depressed allot some days like i
> > almost feel like don't want to get out of bed.
> > I really only get out of bed to take care of my guide dog that is what it
> > feels like to me in a sence.
> > Like I have done allot of tasks in school as i was in like couple
> different
> > hands on classes.
> > I had a real good EA stands for educational assistant who knew how to
> adapt
> > things for me and for which whom I still talk to to this day.
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