[Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changestohave certification for service dogs

Sun Apr 6 17:14:01 UTC 2014

Hi Peter,

I hear you, there are agencies that will certify a self trained service dog. They must go through a series of tests, to get there legal certification.
Yes I also agree with a stiffer $$$$  penalty, that would help.  If someone gets a  ticket while driving and  if you don’t pay they do catch up with you and take you to jail!
I have a Ma Senator & a Federal DA writing up something on this matter, for my meeting with a local Senator, that has agreed this is a real problem and would like to speak with me.
We will see what happens, it takes a lot to get a Bill on the floor.

        Warm Regards, Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: Flagdu [mailto:flagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:50 AM
To: Florida Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changestohave certification for service dogs

Patricia, Janet,
Pat as you said the general public is taking advantage of the law.
Not to long ago I was shopping for groceries.
This woman was in the store with her toy poodle. According to her the dog helped her with stress. Here I am with a trained guide dog, in harness helping me with my mobility.
So I asked her where was her dog trained. Oh he isn't trained; he is just my pet dog that helps me.
What is next somebody bringing in an elephant so it can help them reach high places?
I think any so called service animal has to come from an accredited school.
Yes I'm aware you can buy documented cards on the internet that claims that your turtle is a service animal.
The general public won't change until stronger penalties are enforced.
Someone suggested a five hundred dollar fine. I think that is a start.
Oh the person might say, the hell with paying the fine, just like many do with parking tickets, Etc. What can be done about this? Any suggestions?
We are all blind, and are a minority. However collectively we have to stand together, together with others that use service animals that are authorized, trained to help that person.
I have no problem with showing proof that JJ is a trained Gide dog. However in all the years I’ve used JJ, and my previous dogs, never have I’ve been asked to show any type of proof.
Educating the public I think is a must.
I don’t know how much it costs to advertise on the radio or TV. However what do you all think of a commercial stating something that it is illegal to masker aid your animal as a service animal? I know the wording had to be better; however I think you all get the point.

-----Original Message-----
From: Patricia A. Lipovsky
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:03 PM
To: Florida Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changestohave certification for service dogs

I agree Janet.  The problem with the general public is they are learning they can take advantage of the law, and take their pets out into public places without any recourse.  Until we can get the DOJ to revamp the law, I think we should all try to educate the businesses in our own areas as to what they need to watch out for, and what they fan expect from a legitimately trained service animal.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet DeLuca" <janetsyear2010 at gmail.com>
To: "'Florida Association of Guide Dog Users'" <flagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changes tohave certification for service dogs

> Hello All,
>
> I was wondering which idea you are interested in.
> The only 2 problems I see with sending stickers out is.
>  Most businesses won't uses sticker, because they shift things around a
> lot. (I also dated myself with time clock, since most use computers.)
>   Most people that get stickers, with a donation envelope end up throwing
> it out. You may get  a quarter of donations that you mail.
> The bottom line it takes a lot to get a Bill on the floor, so until that
> could be done, we should think of a way of dealing with educating the
> public. However again restaurants have a high turnover rate.
>
>      Janet
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Flagdu [mailto:flagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Patricia A.
> Lipovsky
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 10:01 AM
> To: Florida Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changes to have
> certification for service dogs
>
> My goodness, what happened? We had such a good dialogue going, with so 
> many
> expressing themselves, sharing their thoughts and ideas.  Perhaps we ran
> this topic into the ground?
>
>
>
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> To: <flagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 12:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changes to have
> certification for service dogs
>
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>> That is a good thought and I know several  companies that would post
>> such a sign.
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