[Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolutionon changestohave certification for service dogs

Sun Apr 6 17:27:57 UTC 2014

Hey Janet.

Thanks for sharing this.  I did not know that there are agencies currently 
in existence that will certify a self trained service dog. I think this is 
great, as I do feel people do have the right to train their own dogs, as 
long as they get certified for that training.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janet DeLuca" <janetsyear2010 at gmail.com>
To: "'Florida Association of Guide Dog Users'" <flagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolutionon changestohave 
certification for service dogs

> Hi Peter,
>
> I hear you,
there are agencies that will certify a self trained service dog. They must 
go through a series of tests, to get there legal certification.
> Yes I also agree with a stiffer $$$$  penalty, that would help.  If 
> someone gets a  ticket while driving and  if you don’t pay they do catch 
> up with you and take you to jail!
> I have a Ma Senator & a Federal DA writing up something on this matter, 
> for my meeting with a local Senator, that has agreed this is a real 
> problem and would like to speak with me.
> We will see what happens, it takes a lot to get a Bill on the floor.
>
>        Warm Regards, Janet
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Flagdu [mailto:flagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:50 AM
> To: Florida Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changestohave 
> certification for service dogs
>
> Patricia, Janet,
> Pat as you said the general public is taking advantage of the law.
> Not to long ago I was shopping for groceries.
> This woman was in the store with her toy poodle. According to her the dog 
> helped her with stress. Here I am with a trained guide dog, in harness 
> helping me with my mobility.
> So I asked her where was her dog trained. Oh he isn't trained; he is just 
> my pet dog that helps me.
> What is next somebody bringing in an elephant so it can help them reach 
> high places?
> I think any so called service animal has to come from an accredited 
> school.
> Yes I'm aware you can buy documented cards on the internet that claims 
> that your turtle is a service animal.
> The general public won't change until stronger penalties are enforced.
> Someone suggested a five hundred dollar fine. I think that is a start.
> Oh the person might say, the hell with paying the fine, just like many do 
> with parking tickets, Etc. What can be done about this? Any suggestions?
> We are all blind, and are a minority. However collectively we have to 
> stand together, together with others that use service animals that are 
> authorized, trained to help that person.
> I have no problem with showing proof that JJ is a trained Gide dog. 
> However in all the years I’ve used JJ, and my previous dogs, never have I’ve 
> been asked to show any type of proof.
> Educating the public I think is a must.
> I don’t know how much it costs to advertise on the radio or TV. However 
> what do you all think of a commercial stating something that it is illegal 
> to masker aid your animal as a service animal? I know the wording had to 
> be better; however I think you all get the point.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patricia A. Lipovsky
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:03 PM
> To: Florida Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changestohave 
> certification for service dogs
>
> I agree Janet.  The problem with the general public is they are learning 
> they can take advantage of the law, and take their pets out into public 
> places without any recourse.  Until we can get the DOJ to revamp the law, 
> I think we should all try to educate the businesses in our own areas as to 
> what they need to watch out for, and what they fan expect from a 
> legitimately trained service animal.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janet DeLuca" <janetsyear2010 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Florida Association of Guide Dog Users'" <flagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changes tohave 
> certification for service dogs
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I was wondering which idea you are interested in.
>> The only 2 problems I see with sending stickers out is.
>>  Most businesses won't uses sticker, because they shift things around a
>> lot. (I also dated myself with time clock, since most use computers.)
>>   Most people that get stickers, with a donation envelope end up throwing
>> it out. You may get  a quarter of donations that you mail.
>> The bottom line it takes a lot to get a Bill on the floor, so until that
>> could be done, we should think of a way of dealing with educating the
>> public. However again restaurants have a high turnover rate.
>>
>>      Janet
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Flagdu [mailto:flagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Patricia A.
>> Lipovsky
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 10:01 AM
>> To: Florida Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changes to have
>> certification for service dogs
>>
>> My goodness, what happened? We had such a good dialogue going, with so
>> many
>> expressing themselves, sharing their thoughts and ideas.  Perhaps we ran
>> this topic into the ground?
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Toni King" <tkk at samobile.net>
>> To: <flagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 12:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Flagdu] FW: [nagdu] A CCB resolution on changes to have
>> certification for service dogs
>>
>>
>>> That is a good thought and I know several  companies that would post
>>> such a sign.
>>>
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