[gui-talk] opening messages in gmail with Jaws

Tue Nov 4 20:51:46 UTC 2008

Sherri,
Well, I'm still not quite sure what you're up to, but I think you mean 
you've already done what I sent you to see instructions for doing, yes? And 
all you want to know is how on earth to deal with email right there on the 
Google Mail site, if you feel like opening a message there and maybe 
learning how to reply or forward right from there, which sounds not too 
difficult to learn with Jaws unless, like me and I think like you, too, your 
incoming messages don't have header lines that Jaws speaks as if you could 
click on them, as you'd click open a message in your OE Inbox. And if you do 
click on the line that seems to open the message, it's not that easy to even 
find where the message begins, let alone anything else. And some people wil 
tell you to make sure your gmail display is set to simple HTML, and others 
(including gmail's own advice) will warn you that many features and controls 
won't appear as operable unless you use the Standard setting, and so on and 
so forth? Well, I can't say anything helpful about that. I've already spent 
hours trying to figure out that same stuff, and bumbled around and managed 
almost by accident to open a message despite the fact that what I clicked on 
didn't say it was a clickable thing, and so forth. I really don't want to 
mess with it anymore, and if I'm using my OE with POP3 so I don't have to go 
there, I just won't bother. Yes, I'll have trouble checking the spam folder 
if I have to, because I can't quite figure out how to get around some 
things, but I'm too worn out from trying at this point and just happy to 
have the POP3 arrangement.

Good luck. Sorry.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] opening messages in gmail with Jaws

Thanks much. I did it through Booble and needed help. Thanks also for the
Fred's head info. And I still can't open messages from the G-Mail website.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] opening messages in gmail with Jaws

> Sherri,
>
> I'm going to direct you where to find instructions for setting things up
> so
> that, with a gmail account, you can go on using Outlook express, even for
> the gmail account. This may not be at all what was discussed below. I've
> given up for the time being trying to learn to manipulate the Google mail
> interface myself, as I was trying to learn just to get a handle on it. I
> saw
> that my pleas for help must have been poorly expressed and that I wasn't
> making clear just what I was having problems doing. So this won't be
> related
> to how to use Jaws at the Web mail interface of gmail. It will be how to
> look for a good source of instruction for learning how to set up gmail to
> work with Outlook express so you don't have got bother going to the gmail
> site if you don't want to. Which isn't a perfect solution, as you may set
> things up this way, enjoy the convenience and familiarity, and still wish
> to
> be able to go to the Web mail site and attend to one thing or another.
>
> I'm not sure if this is more or less what you say a friend helped you set
> up, and you're just wanting to compare details. If so, fine. If what you
> really mean to ask is what they subject says or strongly implies,  I.e.
> "how
> do you open an email you receive in gmail, right there in the gmail Inbox
> folder?" then I'm not able to be helpful, because I'm still having an
> awkward time with that. Just to make the distinction.\
>
> That said, go to the database called Fred's Head, which is hosted and
> maintained by the American Printing House for the Blind at
>
> http://www.aph.org/fh/index.html#content
>
> and read the introduction so you learn about the service, if you weren't
> already aware of it. Plenty of interesting and helpful stuff there. Then
> find the Search link and, on the page that opens with a search function,
> input the search string
>
> gmail outlook express
>
> in the edit box. this should get you the page where I found very clearly
> written and easy to follow instructions that allowed me to set up what I
> needed to set up so that my gmail account has become just another of the
> accounts I can use to send and receive email directly from good old
> Outlook
> express.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Joel
>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] opening messages in gmail with Jaws
>
>
> Hey Joel,
>
> I'd like the instructions you have, because someone else helped me set up
> my
> G-mail for Outlook Express. thanks.
>
> Sherri
> flmom2006 at gmail.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Steve Decker
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] opening messages in gmail with Jaws
>
>
> Joel,
> First of all, you should find some settings in your email client to
> leave a copy of your messages on the server.  This way, they won't
> disappear from google after you check them.
> In basic html view with Jaws, the messages should appear as links.
> What version of Jaws are you using?  If for some reason they don't,
> just arrow down till you get to the subject, and hit enter.  By the
> way, you'll need to press enter on the subject, not the name.  Also,
> once you get a message open, there should be q quick reply edit box
> there.  If you want more options, you can always use Alt R to take you
> to the reply link when in basic html.  You can also press Alt C for
> compose etc.  I am currently replying to this message using Gmail's
> web interface.
> HTH
> Steve
>
> On 10/19/08, Joel Deutsch <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> Let me begin by emphasizing that I know you can create a gmail account
>> and
>> then set it up for POP3 service so that you can use a gmail account only
>> with your customary email client, such as Outlook Express. I've already
>> done
>> this, and I'll be happy to share the URL for the Fred's Head database
>> page
>> where I found the excellent instructions. Just ask.
>>
>> That said, I still would like to feel able to use my gmail online if I so
>> wish. But when I visit my Inbox or another page with messages, like one
>> of
>> my many spam pages (pretty good filter, they've got!), I may wish to open
>> a
>> message and actually read it. And maybe, in the case of the Inbox and
>> legitimate email, reply to it right from there.
>>
>> So far, so good. But even though I've experimented with toggling the two
>> display views back and forth, from the standard more graphical view to
>> the
>> basic HTML view (which isn't necessarily any better for a Jaws person,
>> even
>> though you might imagine so) and this seems to have no bearing on the
>> issue.
>>
>> Which is that when I arrow onto a message header, not the sender's name
>> but
>> the subject line, Jaws doesn't say that it's a link, the way I've
>> experienced with other Web mail setups, so that I can click it open and
>> then, on the screen that opens, find the message itself and have a way to
>> reply to it, forward it, or delete it before going back to the list from
>> which I chose it.
>>
>> Is this just impossible with Jaws? Should I give up hoping to ever check
>> my
>> inbox messages online before they download to my own computer and
>> disappear
>> from the Google server (I've set it up that way), or am I missing
>> something.
>> I have no trouble finding the many global navigation links on a page like
>> that, nor the several button controls that are offered for my use. But
>> what
>> if I were actually trying to use my gmail account only on the gmail
>> server?
>> How would I open a message?
>>
>> Thanks to anybody who can help. Remember, I've got it set up for POP3, so
>> that is not the answer. I'm not looking for a workaround. I just want to
>> know how to manage the messages when they're still on the Web server
>> only.
>>
>> Thanks very much.
>>
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