[gui-talk] opening messages in gmail with Jaws

Tue Nov 4 18:59:33 UTC 2008

Thanks much. I did it through Booble and needed help. Thanks also for the 
Fred's head info. And I still can't open messages from the G-Mail website.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] opening messages in gmail with Jaws


> Sherri,
>
> I'm going to direct you where to find instructions for setting things up 
> so
> that, with a gmail account, you can go on using Outlook express, even for
> the gmail account. This may not be at all what was discussed below. I've
> given up for the time being trying to learn to manipulate the Google mail
> interface myself, as I was trying to learn just to get a handle on it. I 
> saw
> that my pleas for help must have been poorly expressed and that I wasn't
> making clear just what I was having problems doing. So this won't be 
> related
> to how to use Jaws at the Web mail interface of gmail. It will be how to
> look for a good source of instruction for learning how to set up gmail to
> work with Outlook express so you don't have got bother going to the gmail
> site if you don't want to. Which isn't a perfect solution, as you may set
> things up this way, enjoy the convenience and familiarity, and still wish 
> to
> be able to go to the Web mail site and attend to one thing or another.
>
> I'm not sure if this is more or less what you say a friend helped you set
> up, and you're just wanting to compare details. If so, fine. If what you
> really mean to ask is what they subject says or strongly implies,  I.e. 
> "how
> do you open an email you receive in gmail, right there in the gmail Inbox
> folder?" then I'm not able to be helpful, because I'm still having an
> awkward time with that. Just to make the distinction.\
>
> That said, go to the database called Fred's Head, which is hosted and
> maintained by the American Printing House for the Blind at
>
> http://www.aph.org/fh/index.html#content
>
> and read the introduction so you learn about the service, if you weren't
> already aware of it. Plenty of interesting and helpful stuff there. Then
> find the Search link and, on the page that opens with a search function,
> input the search string
>
> gmail outlook express
>
> in the edit box. this should get you the page where I found very clearly
> written and easy to follow instructions that allowed me to set up what I
> needed to set up so that my gmail account has become just another of the
> accounts I can use to send and receive email directly from good old 
> Outlook
> express.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Joel
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 3:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] opening messages in gmail with Jaws
>
>
> Hey Joel,
>
> I'd like the instructions you have, because someone else helped me set up 
> my
> G-mail for Outlook Express. thanks.
>
> Sherri
> flmom2006 at gmail.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Steve Decker
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] opening messages in gmail with Jaws
>
>
> Joel,
> First of all, you should find some settings in your email client to
> leave a copy of your messages on the server.  This way, they won't
> disappear from google after you check them.
> In basic html view with Jaws, the messages should appear as links.
> What version of Jaws are you using?  If for some reason they don't,
> just arrow down till you get to the subject, and hit enter.  By the
> way, you'll need to press enter on the subject, not the name.  Also,
> once you get a message open, there should be q quick reply edit box
> there.  If you want more options, you can always use Alt R to take you
> to the reply link when in basic html.  You can also press Alt C for
> compose etc.  I am currently replying to this message using Gmail's
> web interface.
> HTH
> Steve
>
> On 10/19/08, Joel Deutsch <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> Let me begin by emphasizing that I know you can create a gmail account 
>> and
>> then set it up for POP3 service so that you can use a gmail account only
>> with your customary email client, such as Outlook Express. I've already
>> done
>> this, and I'll be happy to share the URL for the Fred's Head database 
>> page
>> where I found the excellent instructions. Just ask.
>>
>> That said, I still would like to feel able to use my gmail online if I so
>> wish. But when I visit my Inbox or another page with messages, like one 
>> of
>> my many spam pages (pretty good filter, they've got!), I may wish to open
>> a
>> message and actually read it. And maybe, in the case of the Inbox and
>> legitimate email, reply to it right from there.
>>
>> So far, so good. But even though I've experimented with toggling the two
>> display views back and forth, from the standard more graphical view to 
>> the
>> basic HTML view (which isn't necessarily any better for a Jaws person,
>> even
>> though you might imagine so) and this seems to have no bearing on the
>> issue.
>>
>> Which is that when I arrow onto a message header, not the sender's name
>> but
>> the subject line, Jaws doesn't say that it's a link, the way I've
>> experienced with other Web mail setups, so that I can click it open and
>> then, on the screen that opens, find the message itself and have a way to
>> reply to it, forward it, or delete it before going back to the list from
>> which I chose it.
>>
>> Is this just impossible with Jaws? Should I give up hoping to ever check
>> my
>> inbox messages online before they download to my own computer and
>> disappear
>> from the Google server (I've set it up that way), or am I missing
>> something.
>> I have no trouble finding the many global navigation links on a page like
>> that, nor the several button controls that are offered for my use. But
>> what
>> if I were actually trying to use my gmail account only on the gmail
>> server?
>> How would I open a message?
>>
>> Thanks to anybody who can help. Remember, I've got it set up for POP3, so
>> that is not the answer. I'm not looking for a workaround. I just want to
>> know how to manage the messages when they're still on the Web server 
>> only.
>>
>> Thanks very much.
>>
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