[gui-talk] free daisy player

Wed Aug 12 18:49:38 UTC 2009

Sherry, I keep saying that over and over but no one's listening.  Come
aboard and help!  Take a look at my message where I state quite clearly that
NLS charges for user keys in units they don't make.  

-----Original Message-----
From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Sherri
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:05 AM
To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player

The Victor Reader Stream is made by Humanware Canada and can play NLS books 
with the installed key from NLS.
Sherri
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player

> Al,
>
> I'm being completely serious, here. Until this moment, I was under the
> impression that the Victor Reader Stream is produced by a company called
> HumanWare, and that this company is based in New Zealand or something like
> that. Now you're saying flatly that the NLS is the maker and vendor of the
> Victor Reader Stream? They bought out HumanWare and now manufacture and 
> sell
> the Stream? Can anyone tell me if this is true? Thanks.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
>
> Keep in mind you'll have to pay for a key if you purchase a unit not
> manufactured by NLS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:40 PM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
> Hey Ray,
>
> ah! Okay, you guys. Not only do I not use a Braille notetaker or this or
> that device, but I'm not signed up with RFB&D at all! that would explain 
> why
>
> this all sounds so strange to me. I don't mean "strange," as in weird. I
> just mean mysterious. So there's some sort of thing where you pay 
> something
> and then you can download something and then you can play it on something.
> Don't even try to explain. Obviously it's over my head because I don't do
> any of this stuff. I'm relieved. Al, you confused the hell out of me! Not
> fair!
> explainn.were y ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
>
> That's correct. However, I expect that the reasoning for the key is
> still the same, in that you can only play the material on certain
> specialized players due to copyright issues and protecting their
> materials. In other words, if you were hoping to play protected NLS
> content in Windows media or Winamp, it's likely not going to happen
> anytime soon. Hopefully FS and the other notetaker/screen reader
> manufacturers will add the ability to play NLS content soon though.
> That will at least open the door to a new user group, and one that may
> not be as likely to get a specialized player, or who may not have one
> for whatever other reason.
>
> Jmt,
> Wayne
>
> On 8/11/09, Ray Foret jr <rforetjr at comcast.net> wrote:
>> It's okay Joel.  I reckon Albert just got NLS confused with RFB&D.  I
>> believe they do charge for a key, that is ,if I'm not mistaken.
>>
>> Sincerely,
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>>
>>
>> Albert,
>>
>> I don't understand. Now, I should say up front that I don't use a Daisy
>> player in order to access files either from the NLS BARD program nor
>> anything I read on the NFB Newsline site. But I don't know which of these
>> you are actually referring to, below, although you do specify NLS in your
>> message.
>>
>> But I just don't know what you're talking about. I've never been charged 
>> a
>> fee of any sort, nor issued any sort of key, whatever that is, for either
>> of
>> these services. Could you or someone tell me what it is I'm not
>> understanding, here, and what it has to do with Daisy, and what that has
>> to
>> do with whether Freedom Scientific has decided to give away their FS
>> Reader
>> soon? My head is spinning. I can make no sense of this.
>> RS wathse ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>>
>>
>> Presently NLS says their publishers keep the bar raised on player
>> accessibility.  This is how they justify charging use $10 for each user
>> key
>> and why their files can't just be played on a computer.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Hoffman, Allen
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:22 PM
>> To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>>
>> Lets not kid ourselves that its a free daisy player, you can't download
>> it for a computer without JAWS, or run on another Mobile platform.  What
>> we should be doing however, is expressing that this player should be
>> recognized and made legal for NLS and RFB DTB(s).  The concept that NLS
>> books must only be played on "special" devices is simply crazy, outdated
>> thinking that does NOT, in any way represent the wishes of the public
>> they are supposed to be serving.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Allen Hoffman
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