[gui-talk] free daisy player

Wed Aug 12 22:43:13 UTC 2009

jen,

Is there even such a thing as an NLS "key?" If so, what is it? A secret code 
you have to enter at some point along with your ID and password? I don't get 
this. I've never had a key of any sort to anything. I've been sent a certain 
character string and asked to use it to confirm myself as a paid-up customer 
when I download updates to a certain program I use. Is that what people call 
a "key?"

but I've never had any suc thing with NLS, and I don't belong to the RFD and 
D thing.
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----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player

I have a stream, I did not pay anything for my NLS key.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Loy" <loyrg2845 at gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player

> That is not true Albert.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
>
> Sherry, I keep saying that over and over but no one's listening.  Come
> aboard and help!  Take a look at my message where I state quite clearly
> that
> NLS charges for user keys in units they don't make.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Sherri
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:05 AM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
> The Victor Reader Stream is made by Humanware Canada and can play NLS
> books
> with the installed key from NLS.
> Sherri
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
>
>> Al,
>>
>> I'm being completely serious, here. Until this moment, I was under the
>> impression that the Victor Reader Stream is produced by a company called
>> HumanWare, and that this company is based in New Zealand or something
>> like
>> that. Now you're saying flatly that the NLS is the maker and vendor of
>> the
>> Victor Reader Stream? They bought out HumanWare and now manufacture and
>> sell
>> the Stream? Can anyone tell me if this is true? Thanks.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>>
>>
>> Keep in mind you'll have to pay for a key if you purchase a unit not
>> manufactured by NLS.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:40 PM
>> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>>
>> Hey Ray,
>>
>> ah! Okay, you guys. Not only do I not use a Braille notetaker or this or
>> that device, but I'm not signed up with RFB&D at all! that would explain
>> why
>>
>> this all sounds so strange to me. I don't mean "strange," as in weird. I
>> just mean mysterious. So there's some sort of thing where you pay
>> something
>> and then you can download something and then you can play it on
>> something.
>> Don't even try to explain. Obviously it's over my head because I don't do
>> any of this stuff. I'm relieved. Al, you confused the hell out of me! Not
>> fair!
>> explainn.were y ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>>
>>
>> That's correct. However, I expect that the reasoning for the key is
>> still the same, in that you can only play the material on certain
>> specialized players due to copyright issues and protecting their
>> materials. In other words, if you were hoping to play protected NLS
>> content in Windows media or Winamp, it's likely not going to happen
>> anytime soon. Hopefully FS and the other notetaker/screen reader
>> manufacturers will add the ability to play NLS content soon though.
>> That will at least open the door to a new user group, and one that may
>> not be as likely to get a specialized player, or who may not have one
>> for whatever other reason.
>>
>> Jmt,
>> Wayne
>>
>> On 8/11/09, Ray Foret jr <rforetjr at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> It's okay Joel.  I reckon Albert just got NLS confused with RFB&D.  I
>>> believe they do charge for a key, that is ,if I'm not mistaken.
>>>
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>>>
>>>
>>> Albert,
>>>
>>> I don't understand. Now, I should say up front that I don't use a Daisy
>>> player in order to access files either from the NLS BARD program nor
>>> anything I read on the NFB Newsline site. But I don't know which of
>>> these
>>> you are actually referring to, below, although you do specify NLS in
>>> your
>>> message.
>>>
>>> But I just don't know what you're talking about. I've never been charged
>>> a
>>> fee of any sort, nor issued any sort of key, whatever that is, for
>>> either
>>> of
>>> these services. Could you or someone tell me what it is I'm not
>>> understanding, here, and what it has to do with Daisy, and what that has
>>> to
>>> do with whether Freedom Scientific has decided to give away their FS
>>> Reader
>>> soon? My head is spinning. I can make no sense of this.
>>> RS wathse ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>>>
>>>
>>> Presently NLS says their publishers keep the bar raised on player
>>> accessibility.  This is how they justify charging use $10 for each user
>>> key
>>> and why their files can't just be played on a computer.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Hoffman, Allen
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:22 PM
>>> To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>>>
>>> Lets not kid ourselves that its a free daisy player, you can't download
>>> it for a computer without JAWS, or run on another Mobile platform.  What
>>> we should be doing however, is expressing that this player should be
>>> recognized and made legal for NLS and RFB DTB(s).  The concept that NLS
>>> books must only be played on "special" devices is simply crazy, outdated
>>> thinking that does NOT, in any way represent the wishes of the public
>>> they are supposed to be serving.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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