[gui-talk] free daisy player

Thu Aug 13 01:47:34 UTC 2009

Albert, please stop this nonsense.  There is no charge for a NLS key, 
and Levelstar, or Humanware don't pay $10 either.

Dave

At 01:40 PM 8/12/2009, you wrote:
>Do you remember paying for a key once? My guess is that the Icon folks paid
>for that one and you just had to fork over the funds for the Stream.  I'm
>not complaining about a fee for the key I just want people to know what to
>expect.  $10 isn't bad either.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Les Kriegler
>Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:39 AM
>To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
>Hi Albert,
>
>I don't think that's the case, as I have NLS authorized on my Stream and on
>the Icon.  I'm certain I would not have paid for that privilege twice.
>
>Les
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of albert griffith
>Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:27 PM
>To: 'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
>NLS charges for keys for units other than their own such as The Victor
>Stream.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Ray Foret jr
>Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:14 PM
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>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
>It's okay Joel.  I reckon Albert just got NLS confused with RFB&D.  I
>believe they do charge for a key, that is ,if I'm not mistaken.
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:36 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
>
>Albert,
>
>I don't understand. Now, I should say up front that I don't use a Daisy
>player in order to access files either from the NLS BARD program nor
>anything I read on the NFB Newsline site. But I don't know which of these
>you are actually referring to, below, although you do specify NLS in your
>message.
>
>But I just don't know what you're talking about. I've never been charged a
>fee of any sort, nor issued any sort of key, whatever that is, for either of
>these services. Could you or someone tell me what it is I'm not
>understanding, here, and what it has to do with Daisy, and what that has to
>do with whether Freedom Scientific has decided to give away their FS Reader
>soon? My head is spinning. I can make no sense of this.
>RS wathse ----- Original Message -----
>From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
>To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
>
>Presently NLS says their publishers keep the bar raised on player
>accessibility.  This is how they justify charging use $10 for each user key
>and why their files can't just be played on a computer.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Hoffman, Allen
>Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:22 PM
>To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org
>Subject: [gui-talk] free daisy player
>
>Lets not kid ourselves that its a free daisy player, you can't download
>it for a computer without JAWS, or run on another Mobile platform.  What
>we should be doing however, is expressing that this player should be
>recognized and made legal for NLS and RFB DTB(s).  The concept that NLS
>books must only be played on "special" devices is simply crazy, outdated
>thinking that does NOT, in any way represent the wishes of the public
>they are supposed to be serving.
>
>
>
>
>
>Allen Hoffman
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