[gui-talk] traffic on the list

Wayne Merritt wcmerritt at gmail.com
Tue Aug 18 23:22:50 UTC 2009


Not to be too obvious here, but the more people that respond to this
thread, the longer the thread gets. Has everyone responded that wants
to, or should we contribute to the high traffic on the list by talking
about the high traffic? <smile>

Wayne

On 8/18/09, albert griffith <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Don, I agree.  When my schedule was filled I was less apt to respond to
> posts but now I have the time to respond and use it a bit too liberally I
> suppose.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Don Moore
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 4:03 PM
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] traffic on the list
>
> The big issue is the small group of folks who have a seminal need to reply
> to virtually all subjects, regardless of whether they have anything
> substantive to add, seemingly needing to see their posts show up on  a list.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] traffic on the list
>
>
> Allen, without exclusionary devices like certifications or degrees as
> requirements to join a list, the more people you attract the lower the
> general rate of computer literacy.  Lists devoted to the in depth discussion
> of teaching, social work, vocational rehabilitation, the law and other geeky
> areas of interest maintain  higher standards by requesting that list members
> be members of the professions mentioned in the group's title.  It's rather
> obvious the title of this list was designed to scare off the faint of heart.
> Graphical User Interface Tech?  Over time the list acquired a reputation as
> a congenial place to hang out where people were willing to share what
> knowledge they had.  After that the die was cast.  Everyday folks began
> joining the list and they brought their friends.  For quite awhile
> everyone's had a good time.  However, now those with busier schedules
> looking for stimulating conversation are booged down with the trivial
> concerns of those who aren't so focused.
> Either the moderator is going to have to start kicking but so the laggards
> will leave the list for more congenial confines or those who were among the
> initial membership will start a list of their own with a fancy title
> designed to be as exclusionary as this one was.  "and so it goes"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Hoffman, Allen
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:22 PM
> To: gui-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [gui-talk] traffic on the list
>
> ALL:
>
> Beating to death this topic too.
>
> The signal to noise ratio on this list is decreasing unfortunately.
>
> The Promotion list is generally good for higher signal to noise ratio.
>
> Ages ago this was supposed to be a geeky area to talk graphical user
> interface questions, but it is difficult to separate out the other
> aspects of access to and use of electronic and information technology
> from one portion of that.
>
> I would certainly think a new list might be formed to cover topics like
> market research.
>
> Might I suggest some general ground rules:
>
> 1.  If responding to a question, read other responses first and don't
> duplicate.
> 2.  don't ask questions on the list first unless you've done some real
> research first.  Doesn't mean we don't want to help, means you should
> help yourself before poking the ant hill.
> 3.  If you don't know much about a topic, don't answer a question with
> guesses, it isn't helpful.
> 4.  don't answer questions with questions unless you want to bring out
> more clarity.  Otherwise start your own thread.
> 5.  If an exchange goes beyond three back and forth, its probably past
> time to go off-list.
> 6.  Braking my own ground rule but it isn't in effect now--if attempting
> to stem the flow of a topic, it might be best to just ignore it.  We do
> have a moderator who can step in on occasion, but its generally best for
> moderators to not use their moderating hammers often, or lists are not
> useful.  Ahem...
>
> So lets slow down, look before we ask and respond, and take a deep
> breath on occasion.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Allen Hoffman
> allen.hoffman3390 at gmail.com
>
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