[gui-talk] Firefox Running, CAPTCHA Solver

[Steve Jacobson]

Albert,

I think a good case can be made that CAPTCHA's do a better job of keeping legitimate users out than SPAM users.  I would guess that CAPTCHA's did a good job 
at first, when they were new.  At this point, internet services see the internet as a really inexpensive way of making products and services available and CAPTCHA's 
are just a low-cost way of buying some degree of protection.  In the long run, though, they will probably have to accept that some kind of monitoring will be 
necessary to truly stop spammers and the like.  All of this is a little unpredictable, though, and too often we are locked out.  However, it makes it difficult to come up 
with solutions since the form of the problem is changing.

On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:43:32 -0500, albert griffith wrote:

>Steve, I've read two articles recently that discredit the whole captia
>initiative.  I remember one was in C Net.  They said new stats showed this
>method has had little effect on the serious spammers.  As of a couple of
>weeks ago it was being used for links to articles I tried to send from the
>New York times.  

>-----Original Message-----
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>Peter,

>This CAPTCHA business is frustrating indeed.  It should be noted, though,
>that if screen readers and CAPTCHA Solver can decode CAPTCHAs, it won't be
>long 
>before spammers can.  In fact, I would make a case that they may do it more
>quickly in some cases inasmuch as there are some very clever programmers
>working in 
>the spam and virus area, unfortunately.  In particular, OCR-based solutions
>will be short-lived because spammers themselves will arrive at the same
>approaches.  As 
>long as CAPTCHA Solver works, people might as well use it, but the long term
>answer is going to have to be more complex, although it may involve screen
>readers.

>On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:27:38 -0600, Peter Donahue wrote:

>>Hello Cindy and listers,

>>Thanks for the information. I tried creating an account, but was thwarted
>by 
>>the invitation code. I sent them an invitation request and was told that I 
>>would hear back soon. I wonder how soon is soon to those people. Last year 
>>FS gave us Tandem in JAWS 10. It would be wonderful if they would include a

>>mechanism for dealing with CAPTCHAS in Version 11. I would also hope that 
>>the other screen reader vendors would do the same too. If the Web Vism
>folks 
>>can find a way to enable Firefox to solve CAPTCHAS it's about time screen 
>>reader manufacturers did likewise. Sorry for the rant.

>>    Peter Donahue who highly favors instant gratification over invitations 
>>that may come on a donkey.


>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:29 PM
>>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Firefox Running, CAPTCHA Solver


>>Peter,

>>Go to:

>>www.webvisum.com/

>>Yes, it is an add on.

>>Cindy
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net>
>>To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Cc: "NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List" <nfbcs at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:48 PM
>>Subject: [gui-talk] Firefox Running, CAPTCHA Solver


>>Good evening everyone,

>>    Tonight I'm pleased to report that Firefox is running on both of our
>>computers. I believe the CAPTCHA solver is an add-in is this correct? Where
>>do I get it? Thanks again for your help.

>>Peter Donahue


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