[gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth thebothertodownloadand install?

Thu Jun 18 17:49:12 UTC 2009

Hi Chris,

To be honest, the first thing I think of in regard to Window updates because 
it is the *first* thing that Microsoft emphasizes in order to urge you to 
install that service pack or update, is security. You see? Now, I do 
understand that each Windows Service Pack has undoubtedly contained other 
attributes such as what we're calling bug fixes and nice tweaks, but 
security is the very foremost thing MS nearly screams at you in order to get 
you off your butt and accept the updates. See? So it's in that spirit that I 
kept imagining you and others were talking about a common Jaws update being 
mandatory like a Windos Service Pack. See?.

Frankly, as I said, I went ahead and installed it, and it didn't wreak havoc 
on my computer in any way. As almost always it doesn't.Although I really 
have to say, there've been a couple of updates through the years that 
unfortunately disabled some nice Jaws function, such as Reply Directly to 
Sender, and I'm not making this up nor covering up that I did something 
incorrect in the way I installed the update. No. Everyone knows about this 
one. And it took FS another couple of releases and a clot of complaints to 
get back the feature. You could tell their corporate face was a little red 
(sorry, you know, a little embarrassed) by the way they announced its 
resurrection in V. 10, I think it was. They worded the announcement in a 
slightly mealy-mouthed way that made it unclear whose fault the disruption 
had been. Very political trick of phrasing.

I'm just joking around about that, not crazily angry. They're just doing 
public relations. customer relations. Maybe they fooled somebody, maybe not 
somebody else.

But anyway, I downloaded and installed the baby, and all is well. And now I 
know "hot fix" means a bug fix rather than a new feature added. That's cool. 
The more of the lingo you learn, the more clearly you can discuss this 
stuff.

All best.
discuwss----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherh40 at googlemail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth thebothertodownloadand 
install?

Well, think of JAWS updates as Windows Service Packs. Although JAWS doesn't
update its security, it does improve reliability and responsiveness no
doubt. As a result it is just as important to update JAWS as much as
Windows, even if they're minor. Consequences would include being behind on
new or improved features, particularly accessibility to new or improved
applications (iTunes is one of them in this case), and so on. That's how I
treat updates anyway.

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From: "Joel Deutsch" <jdeutsch at dslextreme.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:24 PM
To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth the 
bothertodownloadandinstall?> Chris, could you put this differently, please? 
In what way are you saying
> the Jaws updates are like the Windows service packs? And then, what sorts
> of
> consequences are you saying a person would suffer if they declined to
> install the updates? Please explain a little more specifically. Thanks
> very
> much.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherh40 at googlemail.com>
> To: "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth the bother todownloadand
> install?
>
>
> Also, try to remember that JAWS updates are like service packs for
> Windows,
> so they'll just be as important as Windows service packs. If you do not
> wish
> to update then consider the consequences.
>
> --
> Chris Hallsworth
> e-mail: christopherh40 at googlemail.com
> MSN: ch9675 at hotmail.com
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> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "albert griffith" <albertgriffith at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:19 PM
> To: "'NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List'" <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth the bother to
> downloadandinstall?> All jaws updates are worth the bother to install.
> They
> are to fix things
>> that are wrong with the present version or to add important features.
>> It's
>> very easy to use the update feature so installing the update won't take
>> anyone more than a few minutes.  Try to remember Freedom Scientific
>> doesn't
>> put these out for no reason.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Joel Deutsch
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:43 PM
>> To: GUI-Talk
>> Subject: [gui-talk] Latest Jaws update. Worth the bother to download and
>> install?
>>
>> I've just been to the FS page where they talk about the bug fixes and
>> improvements in succeeding releases/builds of Jaws 10, and the two things
>> below are all that seems is new this time around. let's be practical,
>> though. If I don't bother to install this update, will having failed to
>> do
>> so cause me some trouble later when another update is posted, or when
>> it's
>> time for me to install Jaws 11? I don't want to inconvenience myself like
>> that, but still I'm leery of dutifully installing each new update without
>> question when I hear someone complain that doing so screwed them up in
>> some
>> way. Here are the only two items I found that look like changes in this
>> new
>> build, and neither of these things is of any use to me:
>>
>> a.. Resolved an issue where JAWS would not properly read the playlist
>> window
>>
>> in the latest iTunesR 8 automatic update.
>> a.. Resolved a reported issue with how JAWS worked with the Track Changes
>> feature in Word. Speech and braille were not working correctly for any
>> markups once the view was set to Final.
>> any comments from anybody who's already installed this build? Personally,
>> I
>> always download from the site, and never use the update feature on the
>> Help
>> menu. I've heard too many people say it doesn't work well for them, and I
>> feel safer just doing it myself. Don't want to get into an argument about
>> this if there are several passionate opinions. thanks for understanding.
>> civility is everything.
>>
>>
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