[gui-talk] Unable to Access Target.com web Site Using IE 8 With XP

[David Andrews]

I don't know -- I did forward your message to Anne taylor at NFB who 
handles access matters.

Dave

At 05:58 PM 11/12/2012, you wrote:

>I have Javascript and cookies both enabled and my security level set 
>to the default level.  I get the browser not supported message 
>instantly as soon as I click on the Target;.com link, so it would 
>appear that Target is blocking access as soon as it recognizes the 
>XP/IE 8 combination.  This is the only shopping site on which I have 
>encountered this issue; I can access WalMart, Best Buy and Amazon 
>just fine, to name a few.
>
>Gerald
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing 
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>Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 6:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [gui-talk] Unable to Access Target.com web Site Using 
>IE 8 With XP
>
>
>>Gerald:
>>
>>A couple more thoughts.  First, while IE isn't as dominant as it 
>>once was, it still has 40 or 50 percent of market I think, and IE 8 
>>has to be a sizable percentage of that.  So it is hard to believe 
>>Target would give up that much potential customers.
>>
>>Secondly, maybe something is set in your browser that gets it 
>>identified incorrectly, javascript or cookies turned off, or 
>>security level set very high.
>>
>>Just a couple thoughts.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>At 04:49 PM 11/12/2012, you wrote:
>>>Well, I suspect this is either some sort of error, or something 
>>>more complicated then your message implies.  I just accessed 
>>>Target.com with Internet Explorer 8.  Granted, I have JAWS 13 and 
>>>Windows 7.  I don't know if those things make a difference -- but 
>>>JAWS 9 is pretty old, and XP is getting a little long in the tooth.
>>>
>>>Have you tried contacting Target.  As I said this may be more 
>>>complicated then straight IE8 and you seem pretty quick to blame the NFB here.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>At 04:31 PM 11/12/2012, you wrote:
>>>
>>>>I want to get a head start on my holiday shopping.  But using 
>>>>Internet Explorer 8 with XP Pro and JAWS 9, I get the following 
>>>>message when I try to access the Target.com home page at www.target.com:
>>>>
>>>>Problems viewing Target.com ?
>>>>
>>>>Target Home Page
>>>>
>>>>Problems viewing Target.com ?
>>>>It's because your browser isn't supported. Upgrade to one of the 
>>>>latest versions listed below to get the most out of your Target.com experience.
>>>>list of 3 items
>>>>Click here to download Internet Explorer
>>>>Click here to download Mozilla Firefox
>>>>Click here to download Google Chrome
>>>>list end
>>>>
>>>>According to Microsoft, IE 8 is the latest version of IE that is 
>>>>supported by XP; it does not support IE 9, which is only 
>>>>supported by Windows 7 and 8.  Contrary to popular belief, XP is 
>>>>alive and well and still used by millions of people worldwide, 
>>>>blind and sighted alike.  A few years ago, the NFB successfully 
>>>>sued Target to force them to make its web site more blind 
>>>>friendly.  But now, apparently, thousands of blind computer users 
>>>>who still rely on XP and IE 8 may not be able to access the 
>>>>Target.com site any longer unless they upgrade to IE 9 with 
>>>>Windows 7 or 8, or install Firefox, which has a lot of 
>>>>compatibility problems with JAWS, or Google Chrome, which is 
>>>>still totally inaccessible with JAWS. Is the NFB aware of this 
>>>>situation?  It seems to me that they have a responsibility to 
>>>>ensure that the Target site remains accessible to all blind 
>>>>computer users, regardless of which browser they are using, 
>>>>because they were the ones who made such a big stink over this 
>>>>issue in the first place.
>>>>
>>>>         Gerald