[gui-talk] when will folks start raising hell regarding Windows Phone 8?

Fri Nov 30 14:24:09 UTC 2012

Microsoft is pretty desperate to sell Windows Phone 8 at present, and is likely to listen to public critisim, possibly with remediation plans, etc, especially if such is really pushed out there.  

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From: gui-talk [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] when will folks start raising hell regarding Windows Phone 8?

We also should remember that to make real real headway, we need a leverage point. We must remember that Apple wanted to sell to Massachussetts schools and a possible halt of sales got their attention.

Mike Freeman

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From: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List" gui-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Thursday, November 29, 2012 18:21
Subject: Re: [gui-talk] when will folks start raising hell regarding Windows Phone 8?

>
>
> Certainly we need to keep the heat on Microsoft regarding the 
> accessibility of Windows 8.  For one thing, we just don't know how the 
> market will change in a year.  If Microsoft is successful, Windows 8 could be making a dent in at least Android's sales.  One reason more has not been said is that there is some reason to believe that accessibility will be coming in Windows 8 for phones.  It doesn't have the priority that most of us would like, but we don't think that it has been complegely forgotten has been the case with some other current products.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:09:50 com0500 (EST), Jude DaShiell wrote:
> 
> >With Apple and Android available, why would anyone need Microsoft"On 
> >Wed,
> >28 Nov 2012, Hoffman, Allen wrote:
> 
> >> Lets be clear:
> >> Windows 8 for personal computers is not that big a deal in 
> >> accessibility terms and can work fine.  Windows 8 RT for some 
> >> devices can be problematic but is a small subset of windows.  
> >> Windows 8 Phone is
> the key challenge.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: gui-talk [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> >> Gerald Levy
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:19 AM
> >> To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing 
> >> List
> >> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] when will folks start raising hell regarding Windows Phone 8?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Actually, this backwards step in terms of accessibility should have 
> >> been raised a year ago when Windows 8 was still in beta testing.  
> >> Everyone knew that it was going to be one big mess, but nobody at 
> >> the
> so-called "advocacy" 
> >> organizations gave it much thought.  Now that the final product is 
> >> here and Windows 7 computers are rapidly vanishing from store 
> >> shelves, it is probably too late to do anything.  MS seems to be an 
> >> 800
> pound gorilla that nobody can stop.  But based on preliminary sales 
> figures, Windows 8 could be a bigger disaster for MS than Vista.  And 
> last week, Steve Sinofsky, the MS design executive responsible for launching Vista, Windows7 and Windows 8 abruptly left the company.  Some reports claim that he resigned before the you know what over Win 8 hits the fan.  Other reports assert that he was forced to resign because of personality clashes with MS CEO Steve Dallmer.
> >> In any case, Win 8 could well turn out to be the Edsel of operating systems. 
> >> All we can do is hope that it is such a colossal commercial flop that MS will be forced to back peddle and release a more blind friendly OS with Windows 9.
> >> 
> >> Gerald
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Hoffman, Allen" <Allen.Hoffman at HQ.DHS.GOV>
> >> To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List" 
> >> <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 7:56 AM
> >> Subject: [gui-talk] when will folks start raising hell regarding Windows Phone 8?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > Given the terrible accessibility support in the windows Phone 8 
> >> > release, not the first time for Microsoft, when will we, as a 
> >> > community feel its time to raise some real hell over this 
> >> > continuing lack of corporate responsibility?  Seems we focus a 
> >> > lot on Kindle, and rightly so, but Microsoft should not be let 
> >> > off the hook on this stuff.  In addition, when would we as a 
> >> > community think its time to raise hell over getting authoring 
> >> > tools which actually ensure accessibility of content produced 
> >> > rather than impose nearly impossible additional work on authors?  
> >> > I'm sure battles must be picked, but am unclear on the strategy for picking them of late.
> >> >
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