[gui-talk] More IE Bug Material - Work-around

Fri May 2 11:08:50 UTC 2014

Serotek is a company in deep trouble.  Now that GW Micro is offering Window 
Eyes free to users of Windows Office 2010 or 2013, there is even less reason 
for blind computer users to choose System Access.  And so with less revenue 
to work with,the company is not in a position to offer support for more than 
one browser.    And with the departure of its dynamic and outspoken CEO, 
Mike Calvo, the company is now maintaining a lower profile, so its future 
would seem to be uncertain. Quite frankly, I really don't see how Serotek 
can remain competitive in the commercial screen reader market, and its days 
may be numbered.

Gerald

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From: "emile" <emilet1 at yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [gui-talk] More IE Bug Material - Work-around

>I agree with you however, I have a problem with serotek telling me that the 
>only web browser that they work with is internet explorer.  I would 
>strongly suggest Serotek that they start thinking about working with 
>firefox and chrome so that everybody is on the same footing as far as 
>working with any browsers that they wish to use.  Yes, you can use nvda 
>however, I feel that the heavy investment that we put in Serotek in itself 
>indicates that more effort from the part of Serotek should be made to 
>insure that everyone is on the same footing.  What do you all think?
> Emile.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: George
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:46 PM
> To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface,GUI Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] More IE Bug Material - Work-around
>
> Hi listers,
>
> Yes, Allen, I totally agree with you.  I had been using Internet Explorer
> for years, but, this week, I downloaded and installed the latest version 
> of
> FireFox.  It's wonderful!  Much faster than IE, at least in my pc,
> particularly when you press backspace to return to the previous page!
> I was afraid I would have to learn a new interface, but it's almost the
> same, except for some points that, I feel, are much better in Firefox, for
> example, it's much easier to arrange the items of Favorites or Bookmark in
> different folders, delete them, etc, just by using the applications key.
> Also, when you install it, you can automatically import all your settings 
> of
> IE, including your Favorite links.  Only the order of your favorite links
> will change to alphabetical order, but I thought it was time to arrange 
> many
> links into folders, anyway.
>
> I have been using it for about three days now and I haven't find any 
> problem
> or delay in doing anything I used to do with IE.
> I think the change does pay and I recommend you all to change to Firefox,
> particularly if you need to use Windows Xp for a little more.
> Well, you might find some difficulties depending on what you do regularly
> with IE, but I think you might enjoy many advantages, too.
> I'm using a laptop with Windows xp and Jaws 11.
> No plans to go back to IE.
>
> George
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hoffman, Allen" <allen.hoffman at hq.dhs.gov>
> To: "Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List"
> <gui-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] More IE Bug Material - Work-around
>
>
>> Maybe I missed it but what's wrong with just using Firefox?
>> It is not hard to figure out especially in comparison to all this 
>> workaround stuff which may or may not do the job.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gui-talk [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike 
>> Freeman
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:20 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] More IE Bug Material - Work-around
>>
>> Gregory:
>>
>> You're welcome. I've implemented the first work-around -- turned on 
>> advanced
>> protection -- and, other than a box legitimately warning me of a PDF file
>> download that I knew was OK because I trust the site (it's for our local 
>> ham
>> radio club), I've noticed nothing different or amiss. Of course, peoples'
>> mileage may vary.
>>
>> Thanks for your wisecommentary.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gui-talk [mailto:gui-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gregory 
>> D.
>> Rosenberg
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:05 PM
>> To: Discussion of the Graphical User Interface, GUI Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [gui-talk] More IE Bug Material - Work-around
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Those are good workarounds.
>>
>> For the benefit of all (not Mike) keep in mind they are workarounds and 
>> not
>> fixes. I encourage anyone that puts these workarounds on to keep accurate
>> notes so that if something does not work as expected you will have notes 
>> to
>> look at to jog your memory as to what the last change was to your system.
>>
>> When MS has a fix you may need to back-out the workaround that you choose
>> that best fits your computing environment.
>>
>> Take care for now. Mike, thanks for staying on-top of this issue for the
>> list.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 13:43 CDT, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Check out:
>>>
>>> http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-clarifies-workarounds-for-ie-zero-day-7
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