[humanser] Hi all, Fwd: To disclose or not disclose on internship apps

Mon Nov 23 18:40:24 UTC 2015

Of course, there are criminals who are blind, or who have other
disabilities.
But, it doesn't tseem to me that an employer is thinking about it in the
same way.  
I think it is great for a criminal to be able to experience successful
rehabilitation.  With my last statement, I was in the mind of an employer,
and I just don't see how more criminals with the ability to work helps me.
Not that they shouldn't work, I'm all for it, and have assisted with this in
a marginal way.
However, I don't think that helps my case with an employer.  If you can
figure out a way as to how, enlighten me.  I'm looking for any edge I can
get.
Now as to criminals who are blind, or who have other disabilities, the Band
the Box may help them because they might not have their record as an
obstacle to employment. 

 Justin
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internship apps

Remember guys we are not the only minority population out there. Look up the
statistics and yes there are lots of blind people in prison. There's also a
lot of learning disabled, people with mental health issues, and multiple
disabilities that are in there. We are not the only ones on the fringe of
society and we need to work together. We except people like Dick Davis that
is cited to help us in our struggle for equal opportunities so why not help
with other on the fringe of society. Werther many white people that walked
and supported Martin Luther King? It saddens me that this would be a blind
versus sighted issueto many. If the goal is total integration into society
a.k.a. living the life we want why would we be the only one to support that?
Everything including this change in societal attitude is important. Our
fightnow would be harder without previous civil rights legislation. The more
positively about people who are currently seen as different or throwaway
needs to change. All that are not white & completely able-bodied are in this
category. And we are not the only people with a disability that can't drive!
I have a very bright cousin with severe learning disabilities that can't &
never will unless driverless cars become available to all of us.

Please, don't be offended by reading this and think that I am not for the
NFB cause it all. I just see things brought her and I see this broadness and
partnerships to make lives better for all of us. I think we've many times
look at things so narrowly and got discouraged because of it.  We are the
only ones in the community of differently abled if you'd like that want to
live the life they want. Besides, many of our comrades Nana be our
challenged in other ways besides their blindness.

Ericka Short
"Friends are like flowers in the garden of life"

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> On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:34 PM, justin williams via humanser
<humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> No, the criminal can see; the criminal is not blind.  I would like for 
> you to be correct, but I don't see the connection really.
> Justin
> 
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> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Ericka via humanser
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 5:33 PM
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> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [humanser] Hi all, Fwd: To disclose or not disclose on 
> internship apps
> 
> Is anyone aware of the "ban the box "campaign to make it easier for 
> criminals who have paid their time to get jobs? My community is 
> starting to work towards this. I was thinking possibly if this becomes 
> nationwide and change his attitude towards hiring people who've been 
> through the "system ", it might open doors eventually for us because 
> it changes stereotypes. What does everyone think?
> 
> Ericka Short
> "Friends are like flowers in the garden of life"
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Michael Abell via humanser
>> <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>>   An internship should be treated the same as any job that you apply 
>> for. An individual would not disclose their blindness on a job 
>> application as this would create the opportunity for discrimination.
>> If you are seeking a position as a music therapist, then you would 
>> only include highlights that inform the agency about your qualifications.
>>   There is no "scarlet B" that needs to be put forth as a disclaimer 
>> for applicants. The only time that you would want to disclose 
>> information about a disability is when an accommodation is necessary.
>> The important element for your application is your abilities and talents.
>>   It should be mentioned to screen the job requirements for the 
>> position. If the job requires you need a valid driver's license, it 
>> would not be a position that you should consider. If the job asks you 
>> to visit multiple sites and provide your own transportation, that 
>> would be one that you could consider.
>>   If blindness does not define us, then it should not be any more of 
>> a consideration than race, sexual orientation, or religion. Good luck 
>> in your future placement. I am sure that you will be great!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Michael "Big Dog" Abell
>> 
>> Helping individuals to find their eyes in the dark.
>> (480) 369-0805
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Kaiti Shelton via humanser
>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 9:50 PM
>> To: humanser at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Kaiti Shelton
>> Subject: [humanser] Hi all, Fwd: To disclose or not disclose on 
>> internship apps
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 01:21:24 -0500
>> Subject: To disclose or not disclose on internship apps
>> To: musictherapistswithvisualimpairments
>> <musictherapistswithvisualimpairments at yahoogroups.com>
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I can start applying for national roster internship sites in January.
>> I've already combed through the entire list and picked out the 18 
>> that sounded the most appealing to me.  I even categorized them into
tiers.
>> I know I can have four applications out at a time, so they're in 
>> batches of four according to the level of preference I have for the
sites.
>> 
>> My big question concerns whether or not I should disclose my 
>> blindness on internship applications. I know the standard practice is 
>> to not disclose information before the interview, but I'm wondering 
>> how solid that advice is given the field we are in and the nature of 
>> interviews now.  A lot of my older classmates participated in skype 
>> interviews/auditions rather than ones on-site, which could give me a 
>> disadvantage.  Sure, I could explain over skype how I do things and 
>> show the internship director some of my adaptive equipment if that 
>> issue arises, but it would not be as effective as doing it in person.
>> They won't have an opportunity to observe me using a cane 
>> competently, or see me taking notes and referencing them from my 
>> notetaker.  I'm sure my professors might have some input here, but I 
>> am also sure that they would encourage me to seek out other sources 
>> for this information as I am their first blind student.  I don't want 
>> to be discounted before I have a shot at an interview, but could 
>> being upfront avoid possible pitfalls in the interview process if the 
>> internship director knows a little of what to expect?  Also, if the 
>> internship directly relates to my experiences should I disclose it 
>> then to show I have a possible edge in making empathetic connections 
>> with clients over a student music therapist who does not have prior 
>> experience with blindness, assistive technology, etc?  Thanks,
>> 
>> --
>> Kaiti Shelton
>> University of Dayton-Music Therapy
>> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, 
>> The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division
>> 2015-2016
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Kaiti Shelton
>> University of Dayton-Music Therapy
>> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 2013-Present Secretary, 
>> The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division
>> 2015-2016
>> 
>> "You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back!"
>> 
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