[humanser] More News, reflections on my interview

Ericka dotwriter1 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 10 04:17:39 UTC 2016 

I haven't read the whole thread but you are spot on here Lisa. These visible kiddos and stances are not taught to even visually impaired kids little on the blind. I had to kind of figure it out on my own. It was nice of that lady to Point things out to you. Not everyone has people that are willing to say things. Many are just scared. I've had a couple of people that helped but I still have trouble with the facial expressions. People forget that we can't see and sometimes we're getting closer to figure out something. It can be quite embarrassing. Not just for the job world do we need to know these things, but just interacting in society in general including dating. Some guy or gal might think you're more interested in them that you are or vice versa.

Ericka Short
"What is right is not always popular; what is popular is not always right."

 from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Lisa Irving via humanser <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Michael, 
> 
> I know that you're kidding, however, your wife could craft a consultting job
> doing exactly this and more. I as a blind professional need to know what my
> sighted peers are wearing in the workplace. I want to know what the current
> trends are for applying makeup. I want to know which haircut looks best on
> me. I'd like to know that my accessories compliment everything else. I think
> she and others could help us; employees, job seekers and interns with poise
> and posture. Also, Are my facial expressions appropriate in a given
> situation? Do I look directly at people who are speaking to me or to people
> who I am speaking to? I mention all of this for a number of reasons. I'll
> only give one. 
> 
> Some time ago I worked as an Inclusion Coordinator for a day camp program.
> My supervisor came to me on two occasions and informed me that I was
> intimidating some of the counselors; I was standing too close. The same
> supervisor commented on my body stance and my arched eye brows. Evidently,
> in the sighted world such posturing is perceived as challenging and
> disapproving. Again, I try to be mindful. 
> 
> Thank you Michael and thanks you to your wife. 
> 
> Best-
> Lisa Irving-Ramirez
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Abell via humanser
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 4:06 PM
> To: 'Human Services Division Mailing List' <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Michael Abell <bigdog4744 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [humanser] More News,reflections on my interview
> 
> That is exactly what my wife recommended you wear! There will be no living
> with her now! Perhaps she should become a job fashion consultant:) We are so
> proud of you!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael "Big Dog" Abell
> 
> Helping individuals to find their eyes in the dark.
> (480) 369-0805
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Irving
> via humanser
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 5:03 PM
> To: 'Human Services Division Mailing List'
> Cc: Lisa Irving
> Subject: Re: [humanser] More News,reflections on my interview
> 
> Michael, I worblack dress pants speckled with, I think, grey. I wore the
> teal textured blouse and a classy-looking black blazer. I wore nude-colored
> nylons and black shoes with a modest and stable heal. I wore a light lip
> gloss and phopearl ear rings. I don't think my outfit landed me the job,
> however, had I worn jeans and a sweatshirt I very well could have sunk my
> boat. Lol. 
> 
> Best-
> Lisa 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Abell via humanser
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 3:33 PM
> To: 'Human Services Division Mailing List' <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Michael Abell <bigdog4744 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [humanser] More News,reflections on my interview
> 
> Congratulations! I knew you would do it! By the way, what did you wear to
> the interview? My wife will want to know! Keep us posted on the job! You are
> employed!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael "Big Dog" Abell
> 
> Helping individuals to find their eyes in the dark.
> (480) 369-0805
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Irving
> via humanser
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 4:31 PM
> To: 'Human Services Division Mailing List'
> Cc: Lisa Irving
> Subject: Re: [humanser] More News,reflections on my interview
> 
> Hello All: 
> 
> 
> OMG! I was offered the job. 
> 
> Best,
> Lisa Irving 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Abell via humanser
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 10:55 AM
> To: 'Human Services Division Mailing List' <humanser at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Michael Abell <bigdog4744 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [humanser] reflections on my interview
> 
> Lisa,
>    I am sorry that you had such a difficult experience. It must have
> been difficult with all your work.
>    You should be proud that you were there and did your best. I am sure
> that you learned a lot from the experience and your sharing the experience
> has helped us all. I hope you get the job! Keep us posted.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael "Big Dog" Abell
> 
> Helping individuals to find their eyes in the dark.
> (480) 369-0805
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: humanser [mailto:humanser-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Irving
> via humanser
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 12:42 AM
> To: 'Human Services Division Mailing List'
> Cc: Lisa Irving
> Subject: [humanser] reflections on my interview
> 
> First, I would like to thank all of you for your prayers; positive thoughts
> and advice. Here's what transpired at the interview. Well, I enjoyed the
> first half. I'm not sure that I nailed the questions because I kept catching
> myself digressing. The good news is that I caught myself and it was
> definitely a learning experience. The second half of the interview has left
> me questioning myself. In a nutshell, I had to rely on a reader to complete
> the second half of the interview. I was expected to read an article. I think
> that relying on a human reader is a distinct disadvantage in many
> circumstances, including this interview. I had my laptop with me and I
> suggested one of the interviewers could email the article. I also suggested
> that the article could be downloaded to a thumb drive. I was also unnerved
> by the fact the Hiring Manager couldn't make sense of my job application. 
> 
> 
> 
> Some of you know that I encountered layers of challenges and turned over all
> stones in order to complete the application. The company's Talent Scout
> wasn't concerned about my job application, however, the Hiring Manager
> rightfully was concerned. Yesterday I emailed her my online job application,
> that is, I emailed what I had highlighted and saved into a Word document.
> This morning I offered her a hardcopy of what I had emailed her. She didn't
> want it. Again, I feel as though I'm at a disadvantage. There were a few
> awkward moments during the interview when I was trying to figure out how to
> respond to a couple of questions that I wondered if they were actually
> permissible. I was told there's a lot of paperwork, I was then asked how I
> would complete the paperwork. I asked the person who asked the question if
> everyone is asked this question. There was a lot of hemming and hawing   .
> What do you do in these situations. I thought I integrated my ability to use
> technology into the interview. Well, I'm going to let all of this sit for a
> few days and then I'll try to spin this into a very positive experience. 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks again for your support. 
> 
> 
> 
> From,
> 
> Lisa 
> 
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