[humanser] Diagnostic assessments

Fri Mar 24 05:36:22 UTC 2017

Hello Danielle and all,

Openbook is available.  I found information on it at the following
link to the Freedom Scientific web site by just typing it into Google:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/LowVision/OpenBook

You could also scan using other programs, like Convenient OCR as was
mentioned or Duxbury.  Kurzweil also has software available for the
computer, too.

As for using phones, IPads, etc, I'm not quite sure where I fall on
that debate personally.  I think Be My Eyes and similar assistance
programs which connect blind users to sighted volunteers are
definitely not appropriate as they break confidentiality.  I need to
do some more research on how the OCR exactly takes place; if it is
part of the software itself, then unless there are other ethical
considerations I am just not thinking of now at the late hour I don't
see why an IPad would not work.  I wouldn't want to use my personal
cell phone, as that brings up some questions of professionalism at
least for me, but if the OCR happens without sending the information
to a server somewhere else, and the information is either discarded or
professionally and securely stored after reading, I don't see why it
would be a problem.  However, if information on our clients is being
sent to a server somewhere else, that is still a breach of
confidentiality, or at least I would think so.

I know you said income and training for these devices were difficult
for you, but I think the assistance options are good ideas.  Knights
of Columbus and Kiwanis Clubs might also be willing to help you, and
now there are so many training options available online from youtube
videos, to podcasts, etc.  Some state and local agencies also host
IPhone user groups, primarily aimed at seniors but open to everyone to
join.  You could also look for someone in your affiliate, possibly
even a whiz kid who would be willing to teach you for service hours,
some small payment, or for volunteering in and of itself.

On 3/22/17, David Andrews via HumanSer <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I think you are mixing your metaphors, so to
> speak. Open Book is from Freedom Scientific, now
> VFO Group, and as far as I know, it is still available.
>
> Dave
>
> At 07:37 AM 3/20/2017, you wrote:
>>And I found out by visiting the Humanware site
>>recently that OpenBook does not exist anymore!
>>So if you are like me and was familiar with it
>>in the past, you are SOL! Apple and kNFB strikes
>>again! On 3/19/17, Kaiti Shelton via HumanSer
>><humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hi Rebecca, > >
>>Yes-a brailleNote or BrailleSense will have
>>audio available, with a > headphone jack so your
>>client wouldn't have to necessarily hear the >
>>questions in session. > > Perhaps I have more
>>flexibility in what I'm doing (Music therapy),
>>but > I have also gone through assessment
>>materials with a sighted > supervisor or student
>>colleague and created my own forms based on
>>the > tools.  E.G, I just finished assessments
>>in this manner using a tool > called the IMTAP
>>(Individualized Music Therapy Assessment
>>Profile), as > the basis, but took the relevant
>>domains from the assessment tool and > wrote
>>them as headings with narrative assessment notes
>>underneath.  I > have been trying to figure out
>>how to solve this problem in the event > that I
>>need to do more formal assessments, though, as
>>the book for the > assessment also came with
>>software one would use in the assessment >
>>process that does not work with Jaws or
>>NVDA.  Like someone else said > about creating
>>fillable forms, I find this way creates nice
>>templates > which don't infringe upon copyright
>>since I'm using a different format > and
>>acknowledging the IMTAP as the basis, but JD's
>>suggestion is > helpful as well. > > I'll be
>>following this with interest, too.  I hope this
>>is helpful. > > On 3/19/17, Rebecca Arrowood via
>>HumanSer <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote: >> I am in
>>the process of learning braille still. Does a
>>braille note I have >> audio Belton so I could
>>listen to it in order to administer the
>>questions >> to >> my client? >> >> Thanks, >>
>>Rebecca Arrowood >> Sent from my
>>iPhone >> >> >>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:49 PM, JD
>>Townsend via HumanSer >>> <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>>wrote: >>> >>> Hi: >>> >>> If you have a scanner
>>your problems are solved. >>> >>> It has been my
>>practice for decades to scan forms, such as your
>>caapÃƒÂ© 5, >>> have the scanner translate it
>>into a Word or Notepad document, then move >>>
>>it to my braillenote.  It takes a few minutes,
>>but is relatively easy. >>> >>> It does take a
>>program such as OpenBook or Kurtzweil and a
>>braille >>> notetaker;  but, for me it has been
>>one of the smoother fits. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
>>-----Original Message----- From: Cheryl Wade via
>>HumanSer >>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:07
>>PM >>> To: Human Services Division Mailing
>>List >>> Cc: Cheryl Wade >>> Subject: Re:
>>[humanser] Diagnostic assessments >>> >>>
>>Greetings, >>> >>> >>> Could you get someone --
>>say, from your state's blindness services >>>
>>agency -- to create a fillable Word document for
>>you? They could label >>> the questions; you
>>could fill in the template and print
>>it. >>> >>> >>> Cheryl Wade >>> >>> >>>> On
>>3/19/2017 11:05 AM, Carly Mihalakis via HumanSer
>>wrote: >>>> Good morning,
>>Rebecca, >>>> >>>>        Seems like you might
>>just recruit another clinician to
>>administer >>>> assessments, that is, unless you
>>find a suitable work around. There >>>>
>>ought >>>> not be reluctance in  getting sighted
>>help, after all, sighted people >>>> were made
>>for just this purpose, right? >>>> Car At 03:55
>>PM 3/18/2017, Rebecca Arrowood via HumanSer
>>wrote: >>>>> Hi everyone, I am wondering how you
>>all complete paper diagnostic >>>>>
>>assessments?   I have to use the caapÃƒÂ© 5,
>>which is a really good tool >>>>> but it is a
>>paper assessment and not accessible. I was able
>>to find a >>>>> preview copy version online by
>>the publisher that surprisingly works >>>>> with
>>my screen reader so I can use that during
>>session along with my >>>>> CCTV to record the
>>clients answers.   I have emailed the publisher
>>and >>>>> I >>>>> will call Monday asking if
>>they have an alternative or more
>>accessible >>>>> format available. I am just
>>wondering how everyone house typically >>>>>
>>complete assessments? Do you have other
>>administrative staff administer >>>>> the
>>assessment with your client for you? Thanks,
>>Rebecca Arrowood Sent >>>>> from my iPhone
>>_______________________________________________ HumanSer >>>>>
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Kaiti Shelton