[humanser] Diagnostic assessments

Sat Mar 25 20:20:01 UTC 2017

Well I swear I looked all over the site and did not find it! Thanks!

On 3/23/17, Kaiti Shelton via HumanSer <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello Danielle and all,
>
> Openbook is available.  I found information on it at the following
> link to the Freedom Scientific web site by just typing it into Google:
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/Products/LowVision/OpenBook
>
> You could also scan using other programs, like Convenient OCR as was
> mentioned or Duxbury.  Kurzweil also has software available for the
> computer, too.
>
> As for using phones, IPads, etc, I'm not quite sure where I fall on
> that debate personally.  I think Be My Eyes and similar assistance
> programs which connect blind users to sighted volunteers are
> definitely not appropriate as they break confidentiality.  I need to
> do some more research on how the OCR exactly takes place; if it is
> part of the software itself, then unless there are other ethical
> considerations I am just not thinking of now at the late hour I don't
> see why an IPad would not work.  I wouldn't want to use my personal
> cell phone, as that brings up some questions of professionalism at
> least for me, but if the OCR happens without sending the information
> to a server somewhere else, and the information is either discarded or
> professionally and securely stored after reading, I don't see why it
> would be a problem.  However, if information on our clients is being
> sent to a server somewhere else, that is still a breach of
> confidentiality, or at least I would think so.
>
> I know you said income and training for these devices were difficult
> for you, but I think the assistance options are good ideas.  Knights
> of Columbus and Kiwanis Clubs might also be willing to help you, and
> now there are so many training options available online from youtube
> videos, to podcasts, etc.  Some state and local agencies also host
> IPhone user groups, primarily aimed at seniors but open to everyone to
> join.  You could also look for someone in your affiliate, possibly
> even a whiz kid who would be willing to teach you for service hours,
> some small payment, or for volunteering in and of itself.
>
> On 3/22/17, David Andrews via HumanSer <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I think you are mixing your metaphors, so to
>> speak. Open Book is from Freedom Scientific, now
>> VFO Group, and as far as I know, it is still available.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 07:37 AM 3/20/2017, you wrote:
>>>And I found out by visiting the Humanware site
>>>recently that OpenBook does not exist anymore!
>>>So if you are like me and was familiar with it
>>>in the past, you are SOL! Apple and kNFB strikes
>>>again! On 3/19/17, Kaiti Shelton via HumanSer
>>><humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote: > Hi Rebecca, > >
>>>Yes-a brailleNote or BrailleSense will have
>>>audio available, with a > headphone jack so your
>>>client wouldn't have to necessarily hear the >
>>>questions in session. > > Perhaps I have more
>>>flexibility in what I'm doing (Music therapy),
>>>but > I have also gone through assessment
>>>materials with a sighted > supervisor or student
>>>colleague and created my own forms based on
>>>the > tools.  E.G, I just finished assessments
>>>in this manner using a tool > called the IMTAP
>>>(Individualized Music Therapy Assessment
>>>Profile), as > the basis, but took the relevant
>>>domains from the assessment tool and > wrote
>>>them as headings with narrative assessment notes
>>>underneath.  I > have been trying to figure out
>>>how to solve this problem in the event > that I
>>>need to do more formal assessments, though, as
>>>the book for the > assessment also came with
>>>software one would use in the assessment >
>>>process that does not work with Jaws or
>>>NVDA.  Like someone else said > about creating
>>>fillable forms, I find this way creates nice
>>>templates > which don't infringe upon copyright
>>>since I'm using a different format > and
>>>acknowledging the IMTAP as the basis, but JD's
>>>suggestion is > helpful as well. > > I'll be
>>>following this with interest, too.  I hope this
>>>is helpful. > > On 3/19/17, Rebecca Arrowood via
>>>HumanSer <humanser at nfbnet.org> wrote: >> I am in
>>>the process of learning braille still. Does a
>>>braille note I have >> audio Belton so I could
>>>listen to it in order to administer the
>>>questions >> to >> my client? >> >> Thanks, >>
>>>Rebecca Arrowood >> Sent from my
>>>iPhone >> >> >>> On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:49 PM, JD
>>>Townsend via HumanSer >>> <humanser at nfbnet.org>
>>>wrote: >>> >>> Hi: >>> >>> If you have a scanner
>>>your problems are solved. >>> >>> It has been my
>>>practice for decades to scan forms, such as your
>>>caapÃƒÂ© 5, >>> have the scanner translate it
>>>into a Word or Notepad document, then move >>>
>>>it to my braillenote.  It takes a few minutes,
>>>but is relatively easy. >>> >>> It does take a
>>>program such as OpenBook or Kurtzweil and a
>>>braille >>> notetaker;  but, for me it has been
>>>one of the smoother fits. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
>>>-----Original Message----- From: Cheryl Wade via
>>>HumanSer >>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 7:07
>>>PM >>> To: Human Services Division Mailing
>>>List >>> Cc: Cheryl Wade >>> Subject: Re:
>>>[humanser] Diagnostic assessments >>> >>>
>>>Greetings, >>> >>> >>> Could you get someone --
>>>say, from your state's blindness services >>>
>>>agency -- to create a fillable Word document for
>>>you? They could label >>> the questions; you
>>>could fill in the template and print
>>>it. >>> >>> >>> Cheryl Wade >>> >>> >>>> On
>>>3/19/2017 11:05 AM, Carly Mihalakis via HumanSer
>>>wrote: >>>> Good morning,
>>>Rebecca, >>>> >>>>        Seems like you might
>>>just recruit another clinician to
>>>administer >>>> assessments, that is, unless you
>>>find a suitable work around. There >>>>
>>>ought >>>> not be reluctance in  getting sighted
>>>help, after all, sighted people >>>> were made
>>>for just this purpose, right? >>>> Car At 03:55
>>>PM 3/18/2017, Rebecca Arrowood via HumanSer
>>>wrote: >>>>> Hi everyone, I am wondering how you
>>>all complete paper diagnostic >>>>>
>>>assessments?   I have to use the caapÃƒÂ© 5,
>>>which is a really good tool >>>>> but it is a
>>>paper assessment and not accessible. I was able
>>>to find a >>>>> preview copy version online by
>>>the publisher that surprisingly works >>>>> with
>>>my screen reader so I can use that during
>>>session along with my >>>>> CCTV to record the
>>>clients answers.   I have emailed the publisher
>>>and >>>>> I >>>>> will call Monday asking if
>>>they have an alternative or more
>>>accessible >>>>> format available. I am just
>>>wondering how everyone house typically >>>>>
>>>complete assessments? Do you have other
>>>administrative staff administer >>>>> the
>>>assessment with your client for you? Thanks,
>>>Rebecca Arrowood Sent >>>>> from my iPhone
>>>_______________________________________________ HumanSer >>>>>
>>
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