[il-talk] Fwd: Illinois Constitutional Convention NoticeVoterInformation

Robert Hansen roberthansen1970 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 5 14:25:50 UTC 2008


It did not pass anyway.

The question was on my ballot.




On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:38 AM, CONCERNED CITIZENS OF PARATRANSIT <
concernedcitizens at cometlink.com> wrote:

> Ronza,
>
> Are you saying that the recorded question was not the same as the written
> question?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
> To: <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] Fwd: Illinois Constitutional Convention
> NoticeVoterInformation
>
>
>   I was never given one at all.  I had to use the question that was
>>  recorded
>> by the audio ballot that had been stricken as bias.  Anyone  else?
>>
>> Ronza
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/4/2008 12:20:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>> kelly at dls.net writes:
>>
>> I was  given the information in large, clear print as was everyone else.
>> The
>> judge that I handed my application for early voting to asked me if I could
>> read it or if he should read it to me. I was able to read it and told him
>> so. Believe me, with the amount of time I had to wait to vote, I had
>> plenty
>> of time to consider the issue.
>>
>> Kelly
>> ----- Original  Message ----- From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> To:  <iabs-talk at nfbnet.org>; <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday,  November 03, 2008 7:21 PM
>> Subject: [il-talk] Fwd: Illinois Constitutional  Convention Notice
>> VoterInformation
>>
>>
>> I sent a message to the  Chicago Bar Association to ask what guidance they
>>> might offer someone  who is blind or print disabled.  Their response is
>>>  below.
>>> Basically, an election judge is required to read the question  to  anyone
>>> with
>>> low vision or blindness prior to their  entering the voting  booth.  Has
>>> this
>>> happened to  those of you who participated in early  voting?  I'm curious
>>> as to
>>> how many of us will actually have an election   judge do this.
>>>
>>> Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ____________________________________
>>> From:  bmcmeen at chicagobar.org
>>> To: AZNOR99 at aol.com
>>> CC:   pollwatcher at chicagobar.org
>>> Sent: 11/3/2008 4:58:49 P.M. Central  Standard  Time
>>> Subj: RE: Illinois Constitutional Convention  Notice Voter  Information
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Ronza: I have been  informed that  in the judgment that Judge Howse
>>> entered as well  as his supplemental order  that was entered last week
>>>  explicitly
>>> requires the judges of election to read  the  Corrective Notice to every
>>> voter
>>> who is vision  impaired.
>>> Please let us know if you have any other   questions.
>>> Beth
>>>
>>> Beth McMeen
>>> CLE  Director
>>> The  Chicago Bar  Association
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original  Message-----
>>> From: AZNOR99 at aol.com   [mailto:AZNOR99 at aol.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 7:32   PM
>>> To: cle at chicagobar.org
>>> Subject: Re: Illinois   Constitutional Convention Notice Voter
>>> Information
>>>
>>>
>>> I  want to know if it is a further violation to provide the document in
>>>  written form on election day but not provide a mechanism for reading it
>>> for  those
>>> of us who have print disabilities such as  blindness.  For  example, the
>>> ballot
>>> itself is now  in an audio form for those of us who need  such an
>>> accommodation  under the Help America Vote Act.  Would the  provision of
>>>  written notice at
>>> the polling site constitute a violation of   this Act since there would
>>> be
>>> no
>>> effective way for blind and  print disabled  voters to read it
>>> independently?
>>>
>>>  Ronza Othman
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 10/31/2008 2:59:25  P.M. Central Standard Time,
>>> cle at chicagobar.org  writes:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear CBA Member:
>>> As you have probably  heard, the CBA has filed suit challenging the form
>>> of
>>> the  ballot for the referendum in the upcoming election about the calling
>>> of a
>>> Constitutional Convention in Illinois. The CBA has not  taken  a position
>>> supporting or opposing holding a Constitutional  Convention. Our  lawsuit
>>> is simply
>>> intended to ensure  that the referendum is conducted in a  fair and
>>> constitutional  manner.
>>> The circuit and appellate courts have agreed with us that the  form of
>>> ballot
>>> certified by the State Board of Elections is  inaccurate, biased,  and
>>> misleading. The courts have ordered that  each voter, before voting, be
>>> given a
>>> "Corrective Notice" in  the form of the attached pdf file entitled
>>> "Con-Con
>>> Notice."  All voters throughout Illinois are supposed to receive  the
>>>  Notice,
>>> including those voting by absentee ballot, Early Voting,  and  on
>>> Election
>>> Day.
>>> We believe that the Corrective  Notice does not adequately remedy the
>>> legally
>>> defective  ballot, and we intend to file a petition for leave to  appeal
>>>  after
>>> the election asking the Supreme Court to decide that  issue.  In the
>>> meantime,
>>> however, we have received  reports that some voters are  not receiving
>>> the
>>> Corrective  Notice. To attempt to determine the extent of  compliance or
>>>  noncompliance with the court orders requiring distribution  of the
>>>
>> Notice,
>>
>>> we are
>>> asking voters to fill-out the attached   one-page affidavit (the pdf file
>>> entitled
>>> "Con-Con  Affidavit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ") and return it to the CBA at  pollwatcher at chicagobar.org
>>> <mailto:pollwatcher at chicagobar.org>  or by fax to (312)  554-2054.
>>> Please feel free to forward this  email to your colleagues, friends and
>>> family. They should likewise  feel free to forward the email to other
>>> Illinois
>>> voters. The  more responses we receive, the better we will be able  to
>>> assess  the
>>> extent to which the remedy prescribed by the courts has been implemented.
>>> I am proud that our Association has taken a leadership  role in this
>>> matter.
>>> With your assistance, we can try to  ensure that the remedy  fashioned by
>>> the
>>> courts does not  prove to be illusory.
>>> Thank you for your help.
>>>  Sincerely,
>>> Terrence M. Murphy
>>> Executive   Director
>>>
>>>
>>>
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