[il-talk] Fwd: Illinois Constitutional ConventionNoticeVoterInformation
AZNOR99 at aol.com
AZNOR99 at aol.com
Wed Nov 5 19:16:48 UTC 2008
Debbie,
Yes, I am saying that the written question and the one read to us on the
ballot were not the same. They tried to get at the same issue, but they each
had different language. The language used on the recording was judged by a
court to be bias, misleading, and invalid.
Ronza
In a message dated 11/5/2008 11:19:39 A.M. Central Standard Time,
kelly at dls.net writes:
The written question was a reworded version of the recorded one.
Kelly
----- Original Message -----
From: "CONCERNED CITIZENS OF PARATRANSIT" <concernedcitizens at cometlink.com>
To: "NFB of Illinois Mailing List" <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: [il-talk] Fwd: Illinois Constitutional
ConventionNoticeVoterInformation
> Ronza,
>
> Are you saying that the recorded question was not the same as the written
> question?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
> To: <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] Fwd: Illinois Constitutional Convention
> NoticeVoterInformation
>
>
>>I was never given one at all. I had to use the question that was
>>recorded
>> by the audio ballot that had been stricken as bias. Anyone else?
>>
>> Ronza
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/4/2008 12:20:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>> kelly at dls.net writes:
>>
>> I was given the information in large, clear print as was everyone else.
>> The
>> judge that I handed my application for early voting to asked me if I
>> could
>> read it or if he should read it to me. I was able to read it and told him
>> so. Believe me, with the amount of time I had to wait to vote, I had
>> plenty
>> of time to consider the issue.
>>
>> Kelly
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <AZNOR99 at aol.com>
>> To: <iabs-talk at nfbnet.org>; <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 7:21 PM
>> Subject: [il-talk] Fwd: Illinois Constitutional Convention Notice
>> VoterInformation
>>
>>
>>>I sent a message to the Chicago Bar Association to ask what guidance
>>>they
>>> might offer someone who is blind or print disabled. Their response is
>>> below.
>>> Basically, an election judge is required to read the question to
>>> anyone
>>> with
>>> low vision or blindness prior to their entering the voting booth. Has
>>> this
>>> happened to those of you who participated in early voting? I'm
>>> curious
>>> as to
>>> how many of us will actually have an election judge do this.
>>>
>>> Ronza
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ____________________________________
>>> From: bmcmeen at chicagobar.org
>>> To: AZNOR99 at aol.com
>>> CC: pollwatcher at chicagobar.org
>>> Sent: 11/3/2008 4:58:49 P.M. Central Standard Time
>>> Subj: RE: Illinois Constitutional Convention Notice Voter Information
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Ronza: I have been informed that in the judgment that Judge Howse
>>> entered as well as his supplemental order that was entered last week
>>> explicitly
>>> requires the judges of election to read the Corrective Notice to every
>>> voter
>>> who is vision impaired.
>>> Please let us know if you have any other questions.
>>> Beth
>>>
>>> Beth McMeen
>>> CLE Director
>>> The Chicago Bar Association
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AZNOR99 at aol.com [mailto:AZNOR99 at aol.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 7:32 PM
>>> To: cle at chicagobar.org
>>> Subject: Re: Illinois Constitutional Convention Notice Voter
>>> Information
>>>
>>>
>>> I want to know if it is a further violation to provide the document in
>>> written form on election day but not provide a mechanism for reading it
>>> for those
>>> of us who have print disabilities such as blindness. For example, the
>>> ballot
>>> itself is now in an audio form for those of us who need such an
>>> accommodation under the Help America Vote Act. Would the provision of
>>> written notice at
>>> the polling site constitute a violation of this Act since there would
>>> be
>>> no
>>> effective way for blind and print disabled voters to read it
>>> independently?
>>>
>>> Ronza Othman
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 10/31/2008 2:59:25 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>>> cle at chicagobar.org writes:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear CBA Member:
>>> As you have probably heard, the CBA has filed suit challenging the form
>>> of
>>> the ballot for the referendum in the upcoming election about the
>>> calling
>>> of a
>>> Constitutional Convention in Illinois. The CBA has not taken a
>>> position
>>> supporting or opposing holding a Constitutional Convention. Our
>>> lawsuit
>>> is simply
>>> intended to ensure that the referendum is conducted in a fair and
>>> constitutional manner.
>>> The circuit and appellate courts have agreed with us that the form of
>>> ballot
>>> certified by the State Board of Elections is inaccurate, biased, and
>>> misleading. The courts have ordered that each voter, before voting, be
>>> given a
>>> "Corrective Notice" in the form of the attached pdf file entitled
>>> "Con-Con
>>> Notice." All voters throughout Illinois are supposed to receive the
>>> Notice,
>>> including those voting by absentee ballot, Early Voting, and on
>>> Election
>>> Day.
>>> We believe that the Corrective Notice does not adequately remedy the
>>> legally
>>> defective ballot, and we intend to file a petition for leave to appeal
>>> after
>>> the election asking the Supreme Court to decide that issue. In the
>>> meantime,
>>> however, we have received reports that some voters are not receiving
>>> the
>>> Corrective Notice. To attempt to determine the extent of compliance or
>>> noncompliance with the court orders requiring distribution of the
>> Notice,
>>> we are
>>> asking voters to fill-out the attached one-page affidavit (the pdf
>>> file
>>> entitled
>>> "Con-Con Affidavit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ") and return it to the CBA at pollwatcher at chicagobar.org
>>> <mailto:pollwatcher at chicagobar.org> or by fax to (312) 554-2054.
>>> Please feel free to forward this email to your colleagues, friends and
>>> family. They should likewise feel free to forward the email to other
>>> Illinois
>>> voters. The more responses we receive, the better we will be able to
>>> assess the
>>> extent to which the remedy prescribed by the courts has been
>>> implemented.
>>> I am proud that our Association has taken a leadership role in this
>>> matter.
>>> With your assistance, we can try to ensure that the remedy fashioned
>>> by
>>> the
>>> courts does not prove to be illusory.
>>> Thank you for your help.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Terrence M. Murphy
>>> Executive Director
>>>
>>>
>>>
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