[il-talk] blind person in the loop

Tue May 5 18:57:39 UTC 2009

But, Bob, do you think that the blind guy's response was appropriate?
 Connie Davis 

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From: Robert A. Hansen <roberthansen1970 at gmail.com>
To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 1:41:36 PM
Subject: Re: [il-talk] blind person in the loop

My point is you do not go up and put your hands on other people.  I like my space and do not want people putting their hands on me.  People are sensative to that kind of thing.  We don't have to put up with people grabbing us.  It's our right to not have to deal with that stuff.  I do not like it and neither should this guy or anybody else. 

JOSEPH MONTI wrote:
> mr. H, why does blindness preclulde someone from being a jerk. i know a lot blind people who ARE jerks and alot who aren't. i know a lot of sighted people who ARE jerks. i have had people grab me on the subway as the train was coming. I thanked them and then told them it was the wrong train, which it was. no big deal.
> if someone grabs a person and pulls that person out of traffic and possibly save his life, i think that helper is a hero. sometimes there is no time for  manners and pleasantries. we often do things instinctually like the boy on the bus throwing himself in front of the girl who was about to be shot. he died. if you recall a few years ago Mancow, a local dj , said be nice to blind people, because they are dumb. he soon lost his job as he should. we cannot put labels on sighted or blind people. also i did not see mr. H sign that letter. or did the trib not print it?
> joe monti
> 
> --- On Mon, 5/4/09, Robert Hansen <roberthansen1970 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Robert Hansen <roberthansen1970 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [il-talk] blind person in the loop
> To: tribmag at tribune.com, "NFB of Illinois Mailing List" <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 1:53 PM
> 
> In regards to this burning question;
> 
> I am a vlind/visually impared individual who has dealt with being grabbed by
> the arm quite frequently.  I do not know what the person grabbing me wants
> to do.  I do not know if they are a pick pocket artist.  I do not know if
> they want to "send me to my sudden death" as you put it.  I do not
> know if
> this person is a psychotic or on drugs.  I do not know what this person
> wants to do.  Technically that is in violation of my rights.  Nobody has the
> right to put their hands on anybody.  That is called assault and the last
> time I checked assault is a crime.  The individual who submitted this
> question should have gone home or back to their place of work, Googled
> blindness information and would have found many resources readily available
> to read.  This person did the wrong thing by writing an uninformed person at
> a newspaper that knows nothing about blindness.
> 
> There are two major organizations that deal with blindness issues and many
> smaller ones as well.  The two major organizations are, the National
> Federation of the Blind  http://www.nfb.org  and the American Council of the
> Blind  http://www.acb.org .  Either of these organizations would have
> offered answers to this "livid in the Loop's" questions.
> 
> I really think Livid and the person who wrote these pieces should really
> attend a local chaper meeting of these two organization.  The National
> Federation of the Blind Illinois, Chicago chapter meets every second
> Saturday of the month at the ExChequer Pub located at 226 South Wabash Ave.
> The meeting starts around 1pm.  Matter of fact, there is a meeting of the
> NFBI Chicago chapter this Saturday.  Both of you should come.
> 
> One thing, we are NOT "jerks."  Please do not ever call us that. Educate
> yourselves.
> 
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> 
> Not a Blind Jerek in Chicago, attending a local university.
> 
> 
> have a nice day
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