[il-talk] blind person in the loop

Tue May 5 23:18:11 UTC 2009

I have to hear both sides of the story.  I cannot make a fair decision with
just the small piece of information.  I always want to know both sides.

In other words, INVESTIGATE.  Don't go by what you only read in a second
hand source.

Mr. H

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:23 PM, JOSEPH MONTI <jlmonti at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> hr. H, if the person had a white cane in his hand and was about to step
> into traffic i think a good samaritan has the right to pull that blind
> person out of harm's way. if i recall you don't use a cane.your making this
> person into a villain rather than a hero.
> joe monti
>
> --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Robert A. Hansen <roberthansen1970 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Robert A. Hansen <roberthansen1970 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] blind person in the loop
> To: "NFB of Illinois Mailing List" <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 1:41 PM
>
> My point is you do not go up and put your hands on other people.  I like my
> space and do not want people putting their hands on me.  People are
> sensative to
> that kind of thing.  We don't have to put up with people grabbing us.
> It's our right to not have to deal with that stuff.  I do not like it and
> neither should this guy or anybody else.
>
>
> JOSEPH MONTI wrote:
> > mr. H, why does blindness preclulde someone from being a jerk. i know a
> lot blind people who ARE jerks and alot who aren't. i know a lot of sighted
> people who ARE jerks. i have had people grab me on the subway as the train
> was
> coming. I thanked them and then told them it was the wrong train, which it
> was.
> no big deal.
> > if someone grabs a person and pulls that person out of traffic and
> possibly save his life, i think that helper is a hero. sometimes there is
> no
> time for  manners and pleasantries. we often do things instinctually like
> the
> boy on the bus throwing himself in front of the girl who was about to be
> shot.
> he died. if you recall a few years ago Mancow, a local dj , said be nice to
> blind people, because they are dumb. he soon lost his job as he should. we
> cannot put labels on sighted or blind people. also i did not see mr. H sign
> that
> letter. or did the trib not print it?
> > joe monti
> >
> > --- On Mon, 5/4/09, Robert Hansen <roberthansen1970 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > From: Robert Hansen <roberthansen1970 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [il-talk] blind person in the loop
> > To: tribmag at tribune.com, "NFB of Illinois Mailing List"
> <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 1:53 PM
> >
> > In regards to this burning question;
> >
> > I am a vlind/visually impared individual who has dealt with being grabbed
> by
> > the arm quite frequently.  I do not know what the person grabbing me
> wants
> > to do.  I do not know if they are a pick pocket artist.  I do not know if
> > they want to "send me to my sudden death" as you put it.  I do
> not
> > know if
> > this person is a psychotic or on drugs.  I do not know what this person
> > wants to do.  Technically that is in violation of my rights.  Nobody has
> the
> > right to put their hands on anybody.  That is called assault and the last
> > time I checked assault is a crime.  The individual who submitted this
> > question should have gone home or back to their place of work, Googled
> > blindness information and would have found many resources readily
> available
> > to read.  This person did the wrong thing by writing an uninformed person
> at
> > a newspaper that knows nothing about blindness.
> >
> > There are two major organizations that deal with blindness issues and
> many
> > smaller ones as well.  The two major organizations are, the National
> > Federation of the Blind  http://www.nfb.org  and the American Council of
> the
> > Blind   http://www.acb.org .  Either of these organizations would have
> > offered answers to this "livid in the Loop's" questions.
> >
> > I really think Livid and the person who wrote these pieces should really
> > attend a local chaper meeting of these two organization.  The National
> > Federation of the Blind Illinois, Chicago chapter meets every second
> > Saturday of the month at the ExChequer Pub located at 226 South Wabash
> Ave.
> > The meeting starts around 1pm.  Matter of fact, there is a meeting of the
> > NFBI Chicago chapter this Saturday.  Both of you should come.
> >
> > One thing, we are NOT "jerks."  Please do not ever call us that.
> Educate
> > yourselves.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > Not a Blind Jerek in Chicago, attending a local university.
> >
> >
> > have a nice day
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