[il-talk] Frustrated

Fri Sep 28 17:15:43 UTC 2012

You may have heard the expression, "cat burglar," who presumably does the 
evil deed at night.  In that case, blind people may have a strategic 
advantage, doing things "nonvisually" in the dark.

Cordially,

Steve Hastalis
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817 at att.net>
To: "NFB of Illinois Mailing List" <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [il-talk] Frustrated

>
>
> Barry Scheuer's achievements were along the lines of white-collar crime. 
> There were also the famous blind hacker brothers in the Middle East.  But 
> do we know of any blind burglars?  Is burglary an area where there are 
> alternative techniques?
>
> I've always thought a blind person would have advantages as a spy, because 
> she/he wouldn't be suspected.  Think of all the times people say things in 
> front of us as if we're not there or are incapable of understanding.  That 
> factor might be turned to good use professionally.  We just have to 
> convince the CIA.
>
> Debbie
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Meyer" <datemeyer at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'" <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] Frustrated
>
>
>> Indeed.  Can you say Berry Schroyer?  For a further explanation, check 
>> out
>> Dr. Maurer's banquet speech from this summer.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Connie Davis
>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:27 PM
>> To: 'Steven Hastalis'; 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] Frustrated
>>
>> But, look at this way, he didn't have the prejudice to think we weren't
>> capable of being prowlers!!! We have problem some the criminal element in
>> our population as does every other group. Smile.
>>
>>
>> Connie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Steven Hastalis
>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:18 AM
>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] Frustrated
>>
>> Your story about walking, while someone drives along side, reminds me of 
>> an
>> encounter which took place during the summer of 1974.  I still lived with 
>> my
>> parents in Western Springs then and decided to go to Ravinia one night.
>>
>> I rode one train downtown and another to Ravinia.  I enjoyed the concert 
>> and
>> came home on the same to train lines.
>>
>> I arrived in Western Springs late at night, possibly very early the next
>> morning, perhaps at a quarter to two or so.  Western Springs uses the
>> Chicago street numbers for north-south.  Therefore, the train station is 
>> two
>> blocks north of 47th Street.  As I reached 52nd Street, a car pulled 
>> along
>> side, and the driver followed me at walking speed all the way to and up 
>> my
>> parents' driveway.  My parents' house had a street address of 5709.  I
>> wondered about the driver's motive, given that he followed me that way 
>> for
>> about three quarters of a mile, the south half of my walk home from the
>> train station.
>>
>> I walked up the driveway and was about to enter my house, when a man got 
>> out
>> of his car.  He introduced himself, "Western Springs police."
>>
>> I replied, "What do you want?"
>>
>> He asked, "What are you doing out here?"
>>
>> I answered, "I walked home from the train station."
>>
>> He asked, "Do you have ID."
>>
>> I replied, "No, I have a house key."
>>
>> He replied, "I thought you were a prowler."
>>
>> I answered, "I live here."
>>
>> Fortunately, he then drove away, and I entered the house.
>>
>> (At that time, I had graduated from the University of Illinois a year
>> earlier, and its ID therefore had long expired.  It would be about 
>> another
>> ten months before I would start working at CTA and would have an Employer
>> ID.  Moreover, the state law establishing the Illinois ID would not exist
>> until 1975.)
>>
>> This police officer's skepticism probably had at least as much to do with
>> suburban culture as with my blindness.  How many people do you suppose 
>> walk
>> a mile and a haf home from the train station, especially during late 
>> night
>> to early morning hours, through a community in which the second half of 
>> that
>> walk has no sidewalks?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Meyer" <datemeyer at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'" <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] Frustrated
>>
>>
>>>I realize that one doesn't always have time to do this but I remember a
>>>time  when something similar happened to me.  I was working evenings in
>>>a group  home for developmentally challenged adults and was on my way
>>>to the train.
>>> As I was walking a car pulled along along side of me while I was
>>>walking  and  hit his horn.  For some reason, I stopped.  A gentleman
>>>said quite  confidently, "Do you know you are going in entirely the
>>>wrong direction?"
>>> I
>>> had some time so I decided to have him examine his own question.  I
>>>responded that perhaps he might be right, but perhaps I might be right.
>>>I  then asked him how it was he thought I might be going in the wrong
>>>direction.  He was quite uncomfortable when telling me that I belonged
>>>in  that big building that was a block or so behind us.  I asked him
>>>how it  was  I might belong there.  He said that the building was for
>>>special people  and  that I was a special person and.... I cut him off
>>>at that point telling  him  that I was familiar with that building,
>>>that I was a staff member there,  that I was leaving work and that I
>>>was on the way to the train.  I then  asked him again if I was entirely
>>>wrong with the direction I was going.
>>> Without saying another word, he drove off.  I'm sure he was
>>>uncomfortable,  but I truly felt on top of the world.  It might not
>>>have been right of me  but I wanted for him to feel for just awhile,
>>>the irritation we feel at  members of the general public almost daily.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Francisco Chang
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 1:28 PM
>>> To: Deborah Kent Stein; NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] Frustrated
>>>
>>> As a sighted person I would find it extremely rude if someone grabbed
>>> me me if I seemed lost. It is ridiculous that many sighted people
>>> think that it is all right to grab a blind person because they are
>>> trying to help. A sighted stranger would not like it if a blind person
>>> grabbed his/her arm because he/she seemed lost.
>>>
>>> Francisco Chang, RN, BSN, AACC, CCRN, CVRN, EP Lab, Swedish Covenant
>>> Hospital, Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2012, at 10:43 AM, "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817 at att.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When they ask me if I know where I'm going, sometimes I say, "Yes -
>>>> do
>>> you?" I love Mary Ellen Gabias' response to people who grab her: "Oh,
>>> can I help you?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Chang" <pattichang at att.net>
>>>> To: "il-talk il-talk" <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 7:55 AM
>>>> Subject: [il-talk] Frustrated
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> A guy just stopped me along Higgins. He watched me walk at full
>>>>>> speed
>>> for two blocks and still assumed I was lost.
>>>>>
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