[il-talk] Matilda Ziegler Magazine -- weekly edition September30

Wed Oct 2 15:19:56 UTC 2013

I think this person is not positive and has some other issues that are not being dealt with.   I have never felt any pressure from any groups.  Orgs need money to operate.

RH

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Rob Kaiser <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>I agree. I enjoy all that I do for the Federation both here in Socal and in 
>Chicago while I was there. California affiliate has several young people 
>here as well. I will be going to the state convention in a week and a half. 
>FYI: I will be singing the National Anthem to open the General Session on 
>Saturday morning.
>
>I also agree with Pattie that last year's Illinois state convention had lots 
>of yount people there. As I said at that time, the youth are going to be our 
>organization in the future.
>
>I just hope that I can get Orange County Chapter up and running by November. 
>I have interest from soem some of the members on this already.
>
>Later.
>
>Rob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: Edwin
>Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 7:48 AM
>To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [il-talk] Matilda Ziegler Magazine -- weekly edition 
>September30
>
>Well,  I have never been forced to give NFB money, I have never been forced
>to go to fund raisers like, October fest and games night.  Never have I felt
>like I could not be a member without putting out money.
>How about dues?  Where can you be a member for 5 bucks a year that allows
>you the fellowship of NFB?
>I am listening to a fund raiser right now for WBEZ, NPR and what is wrong
>with supporting things that enhance your living happiness.  Long live NFB!
>and if changes need to be made, remember nothing about us with out us!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Denise Avant
>Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:03 AM
>To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [il-talk] Matilda Ziegler Magazine -- weekly edition
>September30
>
>Good morning all,
>
>I have not traveled to other states and been involved in other NFB related
>events. But I can say without a doubt, there is definitely a need for the
>National Federation Of The Blind. We have not arrived yet. Most people don't
>think we live full lives and when you get right down to it, really don't
>believe we have something significant to contribute to society.
>
>I was traveling to church last Sunday, and a woman I was riding with said
>she was talking to someone, and saying how intelligent she thought I was
>etc, even though I was blind. Well actually she said visually impaired
>because you see she does not use the word blind. I expressed that there is
>nothing wrong with saying I am blind because I am. She said, "No I don't
>like to use that word." The driver responded I just say visually impaired.
>Most of us who are comfortable in our skins have no problem with people
>noting that we are blind. And in fact, I as the blind person should be able
>to say whether the term is offensive.
>On another day, I went to a store, and asked for help. So the young lady
>called on the radio to her manager and said, I have a blind customer who
>needs my assistance, can you send someone to cover. Her manager told her,
>don't use that term. I  said to her that you are perfectly fine to say
>blind. There was no derogatory  tone, and nothing politically incorrect
>about it.
>I have gone into an Apple store, and been stopped, obviously knowing right
>where I am going up the stairs, and the person says hey, "don't you want to
>take the elevator." No, I say, the stairs are just fine. But they insist on
>getting on the elevator.
>
>I had this very thing happen while Debbie, Steve and myself were looking for
>the escalator at O'Hare airport. When an attendant saw us, she asked "don't
>you want the elevator." We told her no, on at least three occasions.
>finally, someone did come over and offered some assistance without being
>intrusive or insulting.
>
>The individual is critical of the NFB for engaging in fund raising. But he
>fails to answer the questions. How do we do the many programs we do if there
>is no money? Does he think a program like BELL is important? How do we
>litigate a case of discrimination if there is no money? Does he feel that
>discrimination against blind people exist?
>
>Well, misunderstanding , disrespect and discrimination as it relates to
>blind people remains.
>The federation has work to do.
>
>Denise Avant
>dravant at ameritech.net
>
>P.S.  Please give to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois Annual
>Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to NFBI c/o Glenn Moore III,
>Treasurer P.O. Box 1065 Elgin, IL 60121.
>
>On Oct 1, 2013, at 11:53 PM, "Cathy Randall" <chr47 at mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Patti's comment in a later message.
>>
>>
>
>> Cathy Please donate to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois
>(NFBI) Annual Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to Treasurer
>Glenn Moore, PO Box 1065,  Elgin, IL 60121.  Thank you.
>>
>> Cathy Randall
>> 217-243-3529
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Syed Yousufuddin"
>> <syedy2003 at hotmail.com>
>> To: <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:16 PM
>> Subject: [il-talk] Matilda Ziegler Magazine -- weekly edition
>> September 30
>>
>>
>>> Below, please find a submission from the reader's forum in this week's
>Ziegler magazine.
>>>
>>> I, being a NFB member, find it intrusive, and yet thought provoking.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: this content does not reflect my views, this is the opinion
>of Dave, a Ziegler reader.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The second response to the reader's forum is about Bob Branco's input on
>blindness organizations like ACB and NFB. I agree with him that they are
>having trouble getting younger members. It's because of a few reasons, such
>as long term office and board positions. Many people in both groups think
>they are the only ones who can do anything concerning the blind. With the
>economy being in the state it is in, things are pretty tight. I have had
>many people tell me they are turned off by the NFB because it seems the NFB
>wants and craves money, money, money. My local chapter is just that way,
>it's like a social status: if you don't have fund raising skills or money
>you don't fit in. The biggest problem with the NFB as far as getting younger
>members is I think is they don't feel needed or appreciated when they do
>join. I've seen many members in my local chapter come and join and attend a
>couple of meetings then drop out, it's not for them, like Bob said, many
>younger blind people really don't feel the need for membership in either the
>ACB or the NFB because they are mainstreaming into the sighted world, the
>ones who stay in the ACB or NFB have been there a long time to keep things
>going, but what are we going to do when our current today's leaders die off
>or drop out? The reason why blind people aren't joining is they can't take
>over because of the ones that are in the ACB or NFB those leaders are afraid
>to let newer younger people in. It is a power issue, there is a lot of
>insecure blind people in the ACB and NFB who really don't know how to let go
>and move on and let others learn and grow. I may drop out at the end of this
>year because of the way the local chapter president treats some of us. I
>don't need the stress, aggravation, criticizing and judgmental attitude
>towards me or anyone else. I've put with it for 30 plus years. That's a lot
>of why both groups are having trouble getting new and younger members.
>>>
>>>
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