[il-talk] Matilda Ziegler Magazine -- weeklyedition September 30
Cathy Randall
chr47 at mchsi.com
Wed Oct 2 18:25:11 UTC 2013
Thanks to my NFB of Illinois friends for their well stated comments on this
subject. Dave from the Zeigler Magazine article does indeed need to come to
our State Convention and meet our proud, hard working older and young
members. We just might give him a job and get him involved!
By the way, I love raising money for the Affiliate because we spend it
carefully and really do change what it means to be BLIND for ourselves and
our newfriends who join the Federation family each year.
Fondly,
Cathy
Please donate to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois (NFBI)
Annual Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to Treasurer Glenn
Moore, PO Box 1065, Elgin, IL 60121. Thank you.
Cathy Randall
217-243-3529
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Webb" <awebb2168 at gmail.com>
To: "'NFB of Illinois Mailing List'" <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [il-talk] Matilda Ziegler Magazine -- weeklyedition September
30
>I think these have been great sentiments that people have shared. In
>truth,
> when I read the Ziegler reader's comments, I found them to be poorly
> articulated and without much substance. He really didn't comment much on
> the relevance or power of the organized blind movement, so much as he did
> on
> his own personal frustrations with perceived slights from his chapter's
> president and and what he considers to be the entrenched nature of the
> leadership structure. It was more of a personal rant, that doesn't much
> square with objective reality. I don't know much about the Council, but
> as
> for NFB, it's hard to accept the notion that's it's failing to attract
> young
> members when it has thriving student divisions across the nation,
> youth-oriented training enrichment programs at each of its three training
> centers, affords multitudinous scholarships each year between the national
> and state levels, etc. Obviously, I don't know who this gentleman is or
> to
> which chapter he belongs, and so I must acknowledge that it's possible
> that
> his chapter president is a condescending jerk who has been putting him
> down
> for the last 30 years. Anything's possible. But I doubt many
> Federationists would recognize that kind of behavior in our elected
> leaders;
> it sure hasn't been my experience.
>
> Blindness being the relatively low-incidence disability that it is, there
> are relatively few blind people throughout the general populace with the
> power and moxy to improve popular perceptions of our talents and
> capabilities. Thus, the notion that a blind individual can't assume
> leadership or make a difference because NFB has some sort of impermeable
> "glass ceiling" seems pretty ridiculous to me. There simply aren't enough
> powerful blind leaders to be able to construct a glass ceiling, even if
> they
> wanted to. The extent to which blind people, individually or
> collectively,
> can take action, set good examples and affect social change is limited
> only
> by time, energy, and determination.
>
> Just my two pennies worth.
>
> Cheers,
> Andrew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: il-talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jemal
> Powell
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:05 AM
> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [il-talk] Matilda Ziegler Magazine -- weekly edition
> September
> 30
>
> I find that a lot of the people who write letters in the reader's form out
> of Ziglo Magazine either tended to be bitter or uncomfortable with
> themselves because of their blindness and it is sad. Instead of people
> trying to criticize consumer groups for what they're not doing, they need
> to
> get involved and help the process instead of crying about what we
> supposedly
> don't ****. A lot of these people seem to be historically bankrupt and
> don't seem to get the concept that without that without **** we as white
> people will be way, way worse off than we are.
>
> Jemal Powell sent you this voice-to-text generated email using Voice on
> the
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> To listen, click on the voice message link or open the attachment.
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>
>> Original Message:
>> ---------------------------------
>>
>> From: Denise Avant <dravant at ameritech.net>
>> Sent: October 2, 2013 8:03:25 AM
>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] Matilda Ziegler Magazine -- weekly edition
>> September 30
>>
>> Good morning all,
>>
>> I have not traveled to other states and been involved in other NFB
>> related
> events. But I can say without a doubt, there is definitely a need for the
> National Federation Of The Blind. We have not arrived yet. Most people
> don't
> think we live full lives and when you get right down to it, really don't
> believe we have something significant to contribute to society.
>>
>> I was traveling to church last Sunday, and a woman I was riding with said
> she was talking to someone, and saying how intelligent she thought I was
> etc, even though I was blind. Well actually she said visually impaired
> because you see she does not use the word blind. I expressed that there is
> nothing wrong with saying I am blind because I am. She said, "No I don't
> like to use that word." The driver responded I just say visually impaired.
>> Most of us who are comfortable in our skins have no problem with people
> noting that we are blind. And in fact, I as the blind person should be
> able
> to say whether the term is offensive.
>> On another day, I went to a store, and asked for help. So the young lady
> called on the radio to her manager and said, I have a blind customer who
> needs my assistance, can you send someone to cover. Her manager told her,
> don't use that term. I said to her that you are perfectly fine to say
> blind. There was no derogatory tone, and nothing politically incorrect
> about it.
>> I have gone into an Apple store, and been stopped, obviously knowing
>> right
> where I am going up the stairs, and the person says hey, "don't you want
> to
> take the elevator." No, I say, the stairs are just fine. But they insist
> on
> getting on the elevator.
>>
>> I had this very thing happen while Debbie, Steve and myself were looking
> for the escalator at O'Hare airport. When an attendant saw us, she asked
> "don't you want the elevator." We told her no, on at least three
> occasions.
> finally, someone did come over and offered some assistance without being
> intrusive or insulting.
>>
>> The individual is critical of the NFB for engaging in fund raising. But
>> he
> fails to answer the questions. How do we do the many programs we do if
> there
> is no money? Does he think a program like BELL is important? How do we
> litigate a case of discrimination if there is no money? Does he feel that
> discrimination against blind people exist?
>>
>> Well, misunderstanding , disrespect and discrimination as it relates to
> blind people remains.
>> The federation has work to do.
>>
>> Denise Avant
>> dravant at ameritech.net
>>
>> P.S. Please give to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois
>> Annual Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to NFBI c/o
>> Glenn Moore III, Treasurer P.O. Box 1065 Elgin, IL 60121.
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 11:53 PM, "Cathy Randall" <chr47 at mchsi.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I agree with Patti's comment in a later message.
>> >
>> >
>
>> > Cathy Please donate to the National Federation of the Blind of Illinois
> (NFBI) Annual Appeal by sending your tax deductible donation to Treasurer
> Glenn Moore, PO Box 1065, Elgin, IL 60121. Thank you.
>> >
>> > Cathy Randall
>> > 217-243-3529
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Syed Yousufuddin"
>> > <syedy2003 at hotmail.com>
>> > To: <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:16 PM
>> > Subject: [il-talk] Matilda Ziegler Magazine -- weekly edition
>> > September 30
>> >
>> >
>> >> Below, please find a submission from the reader's forum in this week's
> Ziegler magazine.
>> >>
>> >> I, being a NFB member, find it intrusive, and yet thought provoking.
>> >>
>> >> Any thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> Disclaimer: this content does not reflect my views, this is the
>> >> opinion
> of Dave, a Ziegler reader.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The second response to the reader's forum is about Bob Branco's input
> on blindness organizations like ACB and NFB. I agree with him that they
> are
> having trouble getting younger members. It's because of a few reasons,
> such
> as long term office and board positions. Many people in both groups think
> they are the only ones who can do anything concerning the blind. With the
> economy being in the state it is in, things are pretty tight. I have had
> many people tell me they are turned off by the NFB because it seems the
> NFB
> wants and craves money, money, money. My local chapter is just that way,
> it's like a social status: if you don't have fund raising skills or money
> you don't fit in. The biggest problem with the NFB as far as getting
> younger
> members is I think is they don't feel needed or appreciated when they do
> join. I've seen many members in my local chapter come and join and attend
> a
> couple of meetings then drop out, it's not for them, like Bob said, many
> younger blind people really don't feel the need for membership in either
> the
> ACB or the NFB because they are mainstreaming into the sighted world, the
> ones who stay in the ACB or NFB have been there a long time to keep things
> going, but what are we going to do when our current today's leaders die
> off
> or drop out? The reason why blind people aren't joining is they can't take
> over because of the ones that are in the ACB or NFB those leaders are
> afraid
> to let newer younger people in. It is a power issue, there is a lot of
> insecure blind people in the ACB and NFB who really don't know how to let
> go
> and move on and let others learn and grow. I may drop out at the end of
> this
> year because of the way the local chapter president treats some of us. I
> don't need the stress, aggravation, criticizing and judgmental attitude
> towards me or anyone else. I've put with it for 30 plus years. That's a
> lot
> of why both groups are having trouble getting new and younger members.
>> >>
>> >>
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