[il-talk] Proving your blindness

Thu Feb 18 13:05:00 UTC 2016

Hi Leslie I'd enjoy partnering with you on this. I'll give you a call Friday
Harris

On 2/17/16, Leslie Hamric via il-talk <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I think it would be an excellent idea to put together an article about this
> topic for the newsletter. Would anybody like to volunteer to work with me on
> this? We could write it togetherLeslie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 8:09 AM, pattischang--- via il-talk
>> <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I honestly wish that people would simply ask me what I need instead of
>> making assumptions. I do not feel that it is a good conversation starter
>> to begin with what I do and don't need on a regular basis. I am not
>> offended until people believe that they know better than I how to deal
>> with my disability. We respect many people based on their experience.
>> There really isn't much difference between respecting me for my experience
>> with blindness and respected me for my experience as an attorney.
>>
>>
>> Live the life you want.  Every day we raise the expectations of blind
>> people in the National Federation of the Blind.
>>
>> Patti S. Gregory-Chang
>> NFBI Treasurer
>> NFB Scholarship Comm. Chair
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Harris Singer via il-talk
>> <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> All minority or disadvantaged groups always have to prove themselves.
>> The feeling of proving ourselves is by no means unique to the blind.
>> Our particular challenge is there are so few of us so we are by
>> default unicorns walking amongst the masses. We blind often expect the
>> sighted to somehow intuitively know what help or non-help to provide
>> and we get upset when we feel aggrieved by the ignorant sighted. In
>> the absence of actual knowledge people invent knowledge in its place.
>> When coming upon sighted people where I can expect someone to want to
>> help I will proactively tell the person what I need or don’t need
>> before they will even have the chance to speak. This usually throws
>> them off, but they at least know what my expectations are and they are
>> deprived of the chance to invent a thought about what I need. There
>> are many cultural misunderstandings between the blind and sighted. The
>> work we do in the NFB and in living our lives publicly helps bridge
>> this divide every day.
>>
>> Harris
>>
>>
>>> On 2/16/16, Leslie Hamric via il-talk <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Very interesting perspective as well.
>>> Lh
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Feb 16, 2016, at 9:15 PM, Jemal Powell via il-talk
>>>> <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Interesting topic in my opinion whatever we do in our lives. We are
>>>> proving ourselves. Whether it's walking through our neighborhood. Using
>>>> mass transit going to visit friends family church or a doctors
>>>> employment
>>>> or education. Whatever we do we are always proving ourselves in some
>>>> form
>>>> or fashion. As Brian people. That's just life. A Brian person. So I'm
>>>> sorry people maybe cut that some thought if you may be uncomfortable
>>>> with
>>>> that but so be it. If we spend time worrying about others perception of
>>>> us
>>>> and try to please others and what their police are we would never be
>>>> able
>>>> to leave the lies we want. Life is too short.
>>>>
>>>> Jemal Powell sent you this voice-to-text generated email using Voice on
>>>> the Go.
>>>> To listen, click on the voice message link or open the attachment.
>>>> https://vemail.whitelabelapp.net:443/enterprise/Recordings/KVOXMoT1-20160216-2153.wav
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Original Message:
>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Leslie Hamric via il-talk <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2016 9:01:33 AM
>>>>> To: NFB of Illinois Mailing List <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] Proving your blindness
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me say it a different way. I'm sure along the line, you've all been
>>>>> told by someone that you spend a lot of time trying to prove yourself
>>>>> because of your blindness. I tend to react negatively when I hear this
>>>>> statement. And I'm wondering how others may react, positively or
>>>>> negatively? Do you ever feel like proving yourself or that you can do
>>>>> things gets in the way of living your life for being yourself?
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> This could start a good discussion.
>>>>> Leslie
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2016, at 7:34 AM, Leslie Hamric via il-talk
>>>>>> <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey guys. I have a question. I'm sure you've all been told somewhere
>>>>>> along the way that you spent a lot of time proving that you can do
>>>>>> things in spite of your blindness. How do you  react to this
>>>>>> statement?
>>>>>> I think this topic could start a good discussion.
>>>>>> Leslie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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