[il-talk] Huge News from the world of Adaptive Technology

[David Andrews]

Not to short change NVDA, it is a very good 
program.  However, how well it works for an 
individual depends, in large part on what 
programs he or she uses it with.  Other screen 
readers work better with other specific program, so there isn't the one best...

Dave

At 07:57 PM 6/16/2016, you wrote:
>I am a huge fan of the non-visual desktop access 
>program. I believe everybody should download 
>that program because it works wonders. It works 
>just as well or even better than that expensive 
>program. Save your money and go out and buy 
>yourself something that you really want, rather 
>than spend it on some license program upgrade. 
>sincerely, Robert A Hansen www.wzrdchicago.org 
>WZRD 88.3 FM CHICAGO Sent on my Virgin Mobile 
>Phone. On Jun 16, 2016 6:04 PM, Joshua 
>Hendrickson via il-talk <il-talk at nfbnet.org> 
>wrote: > > This is interesting.  I was going to 
>update my jaws, but it would have > cost me 
>$360.  I could afford that, but I'mm saving my 
>money for > something else.  I've got NVDA, and 
>that works well. > > On 6/16/16, Bill Reif via 
>il-talk <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > As Bob 
>and I were talking yesterday, I had actually 
>speculated that window > > eyes, not jaws, would 
>continue to be the free offering through 
>which > > Microsoft mad it's office products 
>accessible. I have speculated that jaws > > 
>would continue to be the products marketed to 
>government and business > > organizations, thus 
>continuing the mission represented in its 
>acronym "job > > access with speech. There is 
>probably not much consumer screen reading > > 
>market left, given the popularity of the iPhone 
>and NVDA. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> 
>On Jun 16, 2016, at 3:27 PM, David Andrews via 
>il-talk > >> <il-talk at nfbnet.org> 
>wrote: > >> > >> That is mere 
>speculation.  Nothing has been written, that I 
>am aware of, > >> that even implies that JAWS 
>would be available in a similar manner to > >> 
>Window-Eyes.  In fact, I would be shocked if 
>such a thing happened.  JAWS > >> represents 
>too much the revenue of FS/VFO to do 
>so. > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> At 01:57 PM 
>6/15/2016, Hansen, Robert A. via il-talk 
>wrote: > >>> According to Bill Reif, this would 
>allow JAWS to have access to the > >>> Window 
>Eyes arrangement with Microsoft.  This most 
>likely will > >>> drastically improve 
>things.  Reif and I came up with these > >>> 
>possibilities. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 
>6/15/2016 9:41 AM, David Meyer via il-talk 
>wrote: > >>>> There will still be some 
>alternatives out there for screen 
>readers. > >>>> There is > >>>> NVDA which is 
>free, and System Access which can be had for a 
>one time > >>>> fee. > >>>> Though I'm not 
>familiar with what the price for System Access 
>is now, it > >>>> was > >>>> around $400 when I 
>purchased it. I wonder if this new arrangement 
>will > >>>> change the free offer for Window 
>Eyes? > >>>> > >>>> -----Original 
>Message----- > >>>> From: il-talk 
>[mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>Edward > >>>> Birmingham via il-talk > >>>> 
>Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 2:43 PM > >>>> To: 
>'NFB of Illinois Mailing List' > >>>> Cc: Edward 
>Birmingham > >>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] Huge 
>News from the world of Adaptive 
>Technology > >>>> > >>>> I'm not a fan of no 
>competition.  One company doing everthing does 
>not > >>>> bode > >>>> well for affordable 
>pricing.  This takes away the opportunity to 
>shop > >>>> around > >>>> for the best 
>deal! > >>>> > >>>> -----Original 
>Message----- > >>>> From: il-talk 
>[mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>Bill Reif > >>>> via > >>>> il-talk > >>>> Sent: 
>Tuesday, June 14, 2016 1:42 PM > >>>> To: NFB of 
>Illinois Mailing List > >>>> Cc: Bill 
>Reif > >>>> Subject: Re: [il-talk] Huge News 
>from the world of Adaptive 
>Technology > >>>> > >>>> VFO is a company that 
>owns Freedom Scientific, the maker of 
>JAWS, > >>>> Optelec, > >>>> and several other 
>companies. AI Squared recently acquired GW 
>Micro, > >>>> maker of > >>>> Window-eyes, and 
>also owns Zoomtext. VFO now has acquired AI 
>Squared. > >>>> The > >>>> wayw things are 
>going, there may soon be one company that 
>provides all > >>>> access technology for the 
>blind. I wonder whether this was a 
>friendly > >>>> aquisition, and whether 
>Window-eyes development will 
>continue. > >>>> > >>>> Cordially, > >>>> 
>Bull > >>>> > >>>>> On 6/14/2016 1:22 PM, Mary 
>Willows via il-talk wrote: > >>>>> What is 
>VFO? > >>>>> > >>>>> The National Federation of 
>the blind knows that blindness is not 
>the > >>>>> characteristic that defines you or 
>your future.  Every day we raise > >>>>> the 
>expectations of blind people because low 
>expectations create > >>>>> obstacles between 
>blind people and our dreams. > >>>>> You can 
>live the life you want; blindness is not what 
>holds you back. > >>>>> > >>>>> National 
>Federation of the Blind of California 
>(NFBC) > >>>>> 3934 Kern Court > >>>>> 
>Pleasanton, CA 94588 > >>>>> 
>925-462-8575 > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you, > >>>>> 
>Mary Willows, President NFBC > >>>>> 
>mwillows at sbcglobal.net > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >  
> >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original 
>Message----- > >>>>> From: il-talk 
>[mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>Ray > >>>>> Campbell via il-talk > >>>>> Sent: 
>Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:51 AM > >>>>> To: 
>leadership at acblists.org; acb-l at acblists.org; 
>icb-l at acblists.org; > >>>>> 
>icb-board at acblists.org; iac at acblists.org; Blind 
>Information Technology > >>>>> Specialists 
>discussion list; il-talk at nfbnet.org > >>>>> Cc: 
>Ray Campbell > >>>>> Subject: [il-talk] Huge 
>News from the world of Adaptive 
>Technology > >>>>> > >>>>> All I can say right 
>now is wow!  This is huge news from the world 
>of > >>>>> Adaptive Technology and at least for 
>me, very unexpected.  I haven't > >>>>> 
>processed this fully yet to put my thoughts and 
>opinions together on > >>>>> 
>it. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> AI Squared Joins VFO 
>Group, read more here: > >>>>> 
>http://www.aisquared.com/news/ai-squared-joins-vfo/.  
> > >>>>> > >>>>> Ray Campbell > >>>>> ray153056 at gmail.com > >> > >> > >>