[IL-Talk] Where do people get a license to put their hands on us?

[Kelly Pierce]

Iowa long time Federationist Peggy Pinder Elliot offered some great
advice on this topic a long time ago. She says she talks with her
feet. First she stops walking when someone grabs her. She then asks to
be released from the sighted person’s grasp. If they do not respond
immediately, then she sits down in place wherever she is at the time.
They always release when she sits in place.

When I am grabbed, which is rare for me, I respond with “I will follow
you and take your directions” I have never needed to sit in place.

Kelly



On 9/27/22, Leslie Hamric via IL-Talk <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Wow! Even more interesting way to look at it.
>
> Leslie Hamric
> Cello and Braille Music Teacher
> Board member of National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division
>
>
>> On Sep 27, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Deborah Kent Stein via IL-Talk
>> <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> In this day and age, I think most people are learning not to grab
>> children.
>> Somehow that doesn't translate to not grabbing us. We're still fair game.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IL-Talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> dandrews920--- via IL-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 1:32 PM
>> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List' <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: dandrews920 at comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: [IL-Talk] Where do people get a license to put their hands on
>> us?
>>
>> They think of us as children, so it is OK to grab.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IL-Talk <il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Leslie Hamric via
>> IL-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 10:54 AM
>> To: Iltalk <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Leslie Hamric <lhamric930 at comcast.net>
>> Subject: [IL-Talk] Where do people get a license to put their hands on us?
>>
>> Good morning Federationists. Today I was going to an eye doctor
>> appointment.
>> And from the door of the building to the elevator, and then up to the
>> office, I had a total of three people grab my arm. Of course, they thought
>> they were helping when they really weren't. So I decided to try a new
>> approach. Instead of saying, please don't grab, I said, please don't grab
>> it's not safe. You should see how they back off when they hear the words
>> it's not safe. And then, of course, each one got all apologetic. So, of
>> course, I did some educating and then they got it. And then, when I got
>> down
>> the elevator back to the main entrance, a fourth person said, can I help
>> you
>> and they grab my arm. So I started the process all over again. All we ask
>> for as blind people is an assumption of competence. Where did the cited
>> people get off thinking that they can just put their hands on us? I wish I
>> knew. But until then, I will keep educating.
>>
>> Leslie Hamric
>> Cello and Braille Music Teacher
>> Board member of National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division
>>
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