[IL-Talk] Where do people get a license to put their hands on us?

[Patti S Chang]

As an aside, I would love to see some research on this, but I suspect this happens much more with women than men and the older I get the more people seem to grab me too. 



Patti Chang
2nd Vice President
National Federation of the Blind of Illinois
https://www.nfbofillinois.org 
Pronouns: she, her, hers

-----Original Message-----
From: IL-Talk <il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce via IL-Talk
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 1:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [IL-Talk] Where do people get a license to put their hands on us?

Iowa long time Federationist Peggy Pinder Elliot offered some great advice on this topic a long time ago. She says she talks with her feet. First she stops walking when someone grabs her. She then asks to be released from the sighted person’s grasp. If they do not respond immediately, then she sits down in place wherever she is at the time.
They always release when she sits in place.

When I am grabbed, which is rare for me, I respond with “I will follow you and take your directions” I have never needed to sit in place.

Kelly



On 9/27/22, Leslie Hamric via IL-Talk <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Wow! Even more interesting way to look at it.
>
> Leslie Hamric
> Cello and Braille Music Teacher
> Board member of National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts 
> Division
>
>
>> On Sep 27, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Deborah Kent Stein via IL-Talk 
>> <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> In this day and age, I think most people are learning not to grab 
>> children.
>> Somehow that doesn't translate to not grabbing us. We're still fair game.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IL-Talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> dandrews920--- via IL-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 1:32 PM
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>> Cc: dandrews920 at comcast.net
>> Subject: Re: [IL-Talk] Where do people get a license to put their 
>> hands on us?
>>
>> They think of us as children, so it is OK to grab.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IL-Talk <il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Leslie Hamric 
>> via IL-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 10:54 AM
>> To: Iltalk <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Leslie Hamric <lhamric930 at comcast.net>
>> Subject: [IL-Talk] Where do people get a license to put their hands on us?
>>
>> Good morning Federationists. Today I was going to an eye doctor 
>> appointment.
>> And from the door of the building to the elevator, and then up to the 
>> office, I had a total of three people grab my arm. Of course, they 
>> thought they were helping when they really weren't. So I decided to 
>> try a new approach. Instead of saying, please don't grab, I said, 
>> please don't grab it's not safe. You should see how they back off 
>> when they hear the words it's not safe. And then, of course, each one 
>> got all apologetic. So, of course, I did some educating and then they 
>> got it. And then, when I got down the elevator back to the main 
>> entrance, a fourth person said, can I help you and they grab my arm. 
>> So I started the process all over again. All we ask for as blind 
>> people is an assumption of competence. Where did the cited people get 
>> off thinking that they can just put their hands on us? I wish I knew. 
>> But until then, I will keep educating.
>>
>> Leslie Hamric
>> Cello and Braille Music Teacher
>> Board member of National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts 
>> Division
>>
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