[IL-Talk] Where do people get a license to put their hands on us?

Robert Hansen hansen.robert70 at gmail.com
Tue Sep 27 22:26:12 UTC 2022


I like that from Peggy. That's a good one.

Robert Hansen
hansen.robert70 at gmail.com


On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 1:56 PM Kelly Pierce via IL-Talk <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Iowa long time Federationist Peggy Pinder Elliot offered some great
> advice on this topic a long time ago. She says she talks with her
> feet. First she stops walking when someone grabs her. She then asks to
> be released from the sighted person’s grasp. If they do not respond
> immediately, then she sits down in place wherever she is at the time.
> They always release when she sits in place.
>
> When I am grabbed, which is rare for me, I respond with “I will follow
> you and take your directions” I have never needed to sit in place.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/27/22, Leslie Hamric via IL-Talk <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > Wow! Even more interesting way to look at it.
> >
> > Leslie Hamric
> > Cello and Braille Music Teacher
> > Board member of National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 27, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Deborah Kent Stein via IL-Talk
> >> <il-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> In this day and age, I think most people are learning not to grab
> >> children.
> >> Somehow that doesn't translate to not grabbing us. We're still fair
> game.
> >>
> >> Debbie
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: IL-Talk [mailto:il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >> dandrews920--- via IL-Talk
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 1:32 PM
> >> To: 'NFB of Illinois Mailing List' <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Cc: dandrews920 at comcast.net
> >> Subject: Re: [IL-Talk] Where do people get a license to put their hands
> on
> >> us?
> >>
> >> They think of us as children, so it is OK to grab.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: IL-Talk <il-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Leslie Hamric
> via
> >> IL-Talk
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 10:54 AM
> >> To: Iltalk <il-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Cc: Leslie Hamric <lhamric930 at comcast.net>
> >> Subject: [IL-Talk] Where do people get a license to put their hands on
> us?
> >>
> >> Good morning Federationists. Today I was going to an eye doctor
> >> appointment.
> >> And from the door of the building to the elevator, and then up to the
> >> office, I had a total of three people grab my arm. Of course, they
> thought
> >> they were helping when they really weren't. So I decided to try a new
> >> approach. Instead of saying, please don't grab, I said, please don't
> grab
> >> it's not safe. You should see how they back off when they hear the words
> >> it's not safe. And then, of course, each one got all apologetic. So, of
> >> course, I did some educating and then they got it. And then, when I got
> >> down
> >> the elevator back to the main entrance, a fourth person said, can I help
> >> you
> >> and they grab my arm. So I started the process all over again. All we
> ask
> >> for as blind people is an assumption of competence. Where did the cited
> >> people get off thinking that they can just put their hands on us? I
> wish I
> >> knew. But until then, I will keep educating.
> >>
> >> Leslie Hamric
> >> Cello and Braille Music Teacher
> >> Board member of National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts
> Division
> >>
> >>
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