[IL-Talk] Where do people get a license to put their hands on us?

[Ray Campbell]

Hi Patti and all:

One time when I was getting off a train at the Ogilvie Center, I walked up
to the steps going down into the Suburban Concourse from the platform.  As
usual, I was slowly approaching the steps.  Just as I was about to grab the
railing and step down, someone grabbed my arm.  I pulled away from him and
he said, I was just trying to make sure you didn't fall down the steps.  I
said, what you did could have caused me too.



Ray Campbell
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Ok, worst time ever. I was boarding a train and a man grabbed me and I
missed my step because he pulled my arm back which caused me to lose my
footing and my leg ended up down between the platform and the train. Hit
really hard on the edge of the platform and scared me b/c if the train had
taken off, I would have been seriously injured. 

Not okay - creepy - dangerous. 


Patti Chang
2nd Vice President
National Federation of the Blind of Illinois https://www.nfbofillinois.org
Pronouns: she, her, hers

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us?

I thought they think we're like furniture or something. You know so they
think it's okay. And sometimes I just tell him to get their hands off me.
Sometimes I just have to get away from them. Jerk away from him if I have
to. And I don't have time to educate most times because when they do that
stuff I'm very agitated. The smart ones can catch on but otherwise you have
to kind of just do what you can.

Robert Hansen
hansen.robert70 at gmail.com


On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, 1:33 PM dandrews920--- via IL-Talk
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> They think of us as children, so it is OK to grab.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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> via IL-Talk
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> Cc: Leslie Hamric <lhamric930 at comcast.net>
> Subject: [IL-Talk] Where do people get a license to put their hands on us?
>
> Good morning Federationists. Today I was going to an eye doctor 
> appointment.
> And from the door of the building to the elevator, and then up to the 
> office, I had a total of three people grab my arm. Of course, they 
> thought they were helping when they really weren't. So I decided to 
> try a new approach. Instead of saying, please don't grab, I said, 
> please don't grab it's not safe. You should see how they back off when 
> they hear the words it's not safe. And then, of course, each one got 
> all apologetic. So, of course, I did some educating and then they got 
> it. And then, when I got down the elevator back to the main entrance, 
> a fourth person said, can I help you and they grab my arm. So I 
> started the process all over again. All we ask for as blind people is 
> an assumption of competence. Where did the cited people get off 
> thinking that they can just put their hands on us? I wish I knew. But 
> until then, I will keep educating.
>
> Leslie Hamric
> Cello and Braille Music Teacher
> Board member of National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts 
> Division
>
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