[Job-Discussions] Questions about accessibility for a job that I applied and got

Fri May 13 17:05:52 UTC 2022

I must disagree with Karen. If this was a conditional job offer based on their ability to work with you to find reasonable accommodations, the offer can be withdrawn if no reasonable accommodations can be found. 

There is a legal standard for what is “reasonable” based on multiple factors including the size of the organization, it’s annual budget, and how difficult it is to provide the accommodations. Reasonable accommodations are not an absolute entitlement. 

Nor does the blind employee get to decide the accommodations. They must be negotiated. The employer will likely seek the lowest cost solution that works. And ultimately, that decision is the employer’s. Anyway, that’s the way I learned it. If you want up to the minute stuff, I recommend you consult an ADA lawyer. 

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> On May 12, 2022, at 10:53 PM, Justin Williams via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Godo stuff, sir.
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> Outstanding.
> Justin
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> From: Job-Discussions [mailto:job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Stopka via Job-Discussions
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> I did, however they until the company actually gives me the exact software name and not just the company name they said that they couldn't help. However they did say that there was more than a chance that their partner company could script it.
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> On Thu, May 12, 2022, 3:12 PM Justin Williams via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> There are some other accessibility folks that you might be able to locate on the nfb vinder lists for the exhibit hall last year.
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> I also see folks offering accessibility services on the blind adds list.
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> Justin
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> From: Job-Discussions [mailto:job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Stopka via Job-Discussions
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> As I said in a previous post. I would have no problems if they presented me with an alternative option. They just asked me what software I use. I would be willing to use whatever software they are willing to use on their systems. So it is nothing about discrimination here at this point. It's more that it would be discrimination if they gave me the job and then took it back due to supposedly no accessibility issues.
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> On Thu, May 12, 2022, 2:48 PM Justin Williams via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> One could argue that.
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> True.
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> I don't care to be forced into a spot, but you have a point.
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> Justin
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> From: Job-Discussions [mailto:job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Walker via Job-Discussions
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> I don’t think of it as discrimination, if they find a way to make the job accessible, regardless of whether they use VoiceOver or JAWS.  The point is that they find a way to make the job accessible.
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> From: Justin Williams via Job-Discussions
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> I would still call that discrimination if thye don't give you a jaws for windows options at all.
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> From: Job-Discussions [mailto:job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Stopka via Job-Discussions
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> This wouldn't be a work from home position. I would actually be going into the call center. But that does help and give me a bit of information.
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> On Thu, May 12, 2022, 1:38 PM ajharmon26 via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello
> I have tried applying direct with Conduient and they have point-blank told me they do not have any support for JAWS or screen-reading technology as of the time of applying back in 2018. I don’t know if they have changed at all, but they were pretty blatant about not wanting me as I very specifically mentioned I am a screen-reader user and wanted to ask who to contact regarding their technology as I had already been burned by applying to a work-from-home company called “My Employment Options”.
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> Hope this helps
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> Sincerely
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> Andrew Harmon
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> Subject: [Job-Discussions] Questions about accessibility for a job that I applied and got
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> Good morning all,
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> I applied for a job at a place called paper solutions here in New york. They are a call center job that does work for different companies. However after I got my offer and filled out all my tax forms. We started talking about my accessibility needs. They are now trying to figure out if the software will be accessible. But are basically telling me that if it's not that the job will not exist anymore. However they are working with a company called conduent  which runs their call center software. And I'm trying to find out if anybody has had any experience with this company? Also if they have if these call center softwares are accessible with jobs for windows. Any help or guidance in the right direction and navigating this situation would be grateful. Mike
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