[Job-Discussions] Questions about accessibility for a job that I applied and got

Fri May 13 17:28:08 UTC 2022

Good afternoon dick,

Thank you for your in-depth response. Quite honestly it's never been an
issue for me if they want me to use a different screen reading software I
am definitely open to that. But unfortunately at this point it's not a
conditional job offer as the job offer was extended and the software was an
afterthought for them. But even if they asked that I use nvda I would
definitely be okay with that as long as I could do my job successfully.

On Fri, May 13, 2022, 1:07 PM Dick Davis via Job-Discussions <
job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> I must disagree with Karen. If this was a conditional job offer based on
> their ability to work with you to find reasonable accommodations, the offer
> can be withdrawn if no reasonable accommodations can be found.
>
> There is a legal standard for what is “reasonable” based on multiple
> factors including the size of the organization, it’s annual budget, and how
> difficult it is to provide the accommodations. Reasonable accommodations
> are not an absolute entitlement.
>
> Nor does the blind employee get to decide the accommodations. They must be
> negotiated. The employer will likely seek the lowest cost solution that
> works. And ultimately, that decision is the employer’s. Anyway, that’s the
> way I learned it. If you want up to the minute stuff, I recommend you
> consult an ADA lawyer.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On May 12, 2022, at 10:53 PM, Justin Williams via Job-Discussions <
> job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Godo stuff, sir.
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> Outstanding.
>
> Justin
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> *From:* Job-Discussions [mailto:job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Stopka via Job-Discussions
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 12, 2022 3:21 PM
> *To:* Job Discussions internet Mailing List <job-discussions at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Mike Stopka <mikestopka1 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Job-Discussions] Questions about accessibility for a job
> that I applied and got
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> I did, however they until the company actually gives me the exact software
> name and not just the company name they said that they couldn't help.
> However they did say that there was more than a chance that their partner
> company could script it.
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> On Thu, May 12, 2022, 3:12 PM Justin Williams via Job-Discussions <
> job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> There are some other accessibility folks that you might be able to locate
> on the nfb vinder lists for the exhibit hall last year.
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> I also see folks offering accessibility services on the blind adds list.
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> Justin
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> *From:* Job-Discussions [mailto:job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Stopka via Job-Discussions
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 12, 2022 3:04 PM
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> *Cc:* Mike Stopka <mikestopka1 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Job-Discussions] Questions about accessibility for a job
> that I applied and got
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> As I said in a previous post. I would have no problems if they presented
> me with an alternative option. They just asked me what software I use. I
> would be willing to use whatever software they are willing to use on their
> systems. So it is nothing about discrimination here at this point. It's
> more that it would be discrimination if they gave me the job and then took
> it back due to supposedly no accessibility issues.
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> On Thu, May 12, 2022, 2:48 PM Justin Williams via Job-Discussions <
> job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> One could argue that.
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> True.
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> I don't care to be forced into a spot, but you have a point.
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> Justin
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> *From:* Job-Discussions [mailto:job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Michael Walker via Job-Discussions
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 12, 2022 2:30 PM
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> *Cc:* Michael Walker <michael.walker199014 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Job-Discussions] Questions about accessibility for a job
> that I applied and got
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> I don’t think of it as discrimination, if they find a way to make the job
> accessible, regardless of whether they use VoiceOver or JAWS.  The point is
> that they find a way to make the job accessible.
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> Windows
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> *From: *Justin Williams via Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org>
> *Sent: *Thursday, May 12, 2022 1:06 PM
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> *Cc: *Justin Williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Job-Discussions] Questions about accessibility for a job
> that I applied and got
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> I would still call that discrimination if thye don't give you a jaws for
> windows options at all.
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> *From:* Job-Discussions [mailto:job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org
> <job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Stopka via
> Job-Discussions
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 12, 2022 1:40 PM
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> *Cc:* Mike Stopka <mikestopka1 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Job-Discussions] Questions about accessibility for a job
> that I applied and got
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> This wouldn't be a work from home position. I would actually be going into
> the call center. But that does help and give me a bit of information.
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> On Thu, May 12, 2022, 1:38 PM ajharmon26 via Job-Discussions <
> job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Hello
>
> I have tried applying direct with Conduient and they have point-blank told
> me they do not have any support for JAWS or screen-reading technology as of
> the time of applying back in 2018. I don’t know if they have changed at
> all, but they were pretty blatant about not wanting me as I very
> specifically mentioned I am a screen-reader user and wanted to ask who to
> contact regarding their technology as I had already been burned by applying
> to a work-from-home company called “My Employment Options”.
>
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> Hope this helps
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> Sincerely
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>
>
> Andrew Harmon
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> *From:* Job-Discussions [mailto:job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Stopka via Job-Discussions
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 12, 2022 11:54 AM
> *To:* job-discussions at nfbnet.org
> *Cc:* Mike Stopka
> *Subject:* [Job-Discussions] Questions about accessibility for a job that
> I applied and got
>
>
>
> Good morning all,
>
> I applied for a job at a place called paper solutions here in New york.
> They are a call center job that does work for different companies. However
> after I got my offer and filled out all my tax forms. We started talking
> about my accessibility needs. They are now trying to figure out if the
> software will be accessible. But are basically telling me that if it's not
> that the job will not exist anymore. However they are working with a
> company called conduent  which runs their call center software. And I'm
> trying to find out if anybody has had any experience with this company?
> Also if they have if these call center softwares are accessible with jobs
> for windows. Any help or guidance in the right direction and navigating
> this situation would be grateful. Mike
>
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