[Job-Discussions] Equal Employment?

Wed Sep 14 18:00:04 UTC 2022

Hi Richard,

Since I have a case open with my rehabilitation counselor, I would 
notify them, to see what they would do.  I would also follow others' 
suggestions around seeing if the company had an accommodation 
department.  On the careers section, there is sometimes a phone number 
and email address.  If there was a phone number, I would call.  I also 
like your suggestion on contacting the NFB's legal person if I didn't 
hear back from the company.

On the job search, which websites would you use to find a job?

Thank you,

Mike

On 9/13/2022 10:23 PM, Dick Davis via Job-Discussions wrote:
> This is to Michael Walker,
>
> Are you suggesting that you get your rehabilitation counselor 
> involved? Not a bad idea if they will do it.
>
> I don’t know if there is any connection between application systems 
> and work systems. Many companies purchase application systems. There 
> in no way to predict it.
>
>  I know of no list of employers whose systems are completely 
> accessible. Most say they are, of course. Many believe their systems 
> are accessible, but discover they aren’t when a blind person applies.
>
> There is a rapidly growing accessibility industry, but some of the 
> practitioners are not so good when it comes to blindness.
>
> If people identify employers with accessibility problems, we can 
> contact them and work with them on changes. That means our members 
> need to find them for us.
>
> Dave Andrews may want to weigh in on this issue.
>
> Dick Davis
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 10:08 PM, dickblind at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 8:24 PM, Rhonda PartainRhonda via 
>>> Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hello, whenever I have been presented with an inaccessible 
>>> assessment I send an email to the HR department titled ADA 
>>> accommodations request. That usually gets me an answer.
>>>
>>> Rhonda Partain
>>>
>>> *From:* Job-Discussions <job-discussions-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On 
>>> Behalf Of *Michael Walker via Job-Discussions
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2022 9:17 PM
>>> *To:* Job Discussions internet Mailing List <job-discussions at nfbnet.org>
>>> *Cc:* Michael Walker <michael.walker199014 at gmail.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Job-Discussions] Equal Employment?
>>>
>>> Hi Richard,
>>>
>>> This is a very interesting discussion. What happens in a situation 
>>> like this if you contact your counselor through your states 
>>> vocational rehabilitation agency?
>>>
>>> Also, if material on the job is not accessible, how can you advocate 
>>> for internal company resources to be accessible? if parts of the job 
>>> application are not accessible, how likely is it that internal 
>>> company resources won’t be accessible? What websites can help blind 
>>> people locate companies that are proactive in accessibility?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Richard Davis via Job-Discussions
>>>     <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     Hi Michael,
>>>
>>>     Welcome back! We split the Jobs listserv into two separate ones
>>>     a few years ago. In response to your question, we see this
>>>     problem quite often. Diversity and Inclusion departments often
>>>     don't focus on blind people very much, and some of the systems
>>>     they use for recruitment are not accessible. Making things
>>>     accessible is their problem, not yours. I say that because some
>>>     employers think it is the responsibility of job applicants to
>>>     figure out how to use their systems. We can talk more about
>>>     this, but here are some basic suggestions:
>>>
>>>     Communicate with them, preferably in writing, telling them that
>>>     their assessment site is not accessible and requesting
>>>     "reasonable accommodations for testing."  I use that term
>>>     because it activates the ADA. You have a right to reasonable
>>>     accommodations in the job application process. Ask them to
>>>     respond within a week, telling you what accommodations they are
>>>     going to make.
>>>
>>>     If they are uncooperative, contact Valerie Yingling, who runs
>>>     our legal program, at vyingling at nfb.org. She can talk to the
>>>     employer and remind them of their responsibilities. She can help
>>>     you prepare a legal complaint if they do not. Since I don't know
>>>     what their name is, I cannot tell you what laws might cover
>>>     them, but I do know that the application process has to be
>>>     accessible. Valerie is the real expert on legal stuff.
>>>
>>>     That's all for now.
>>>
>>>     Best wishes,
>>>
>>>     Dick Davis
>>>
>>>     On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 5:31 PM Michael Baldwin via
>>>     Job-Discussions <job-discussions at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Thank you to those that responded to my earlier question on
>>>         employment gaps.]
>>>
>>>         I now have a question about EEO and applying for a job.
>>>
>>>         I applied for a job that requires an assessment.
>>>
>>>         The assessment, which they host on their own website is not
>>>         accessible with Jaws.
>>>
>>>         I contacted HR through their Twitter account. This was the
>>>         only way listed on their website. And explained in general
>>>         terms that their assessment was not accessible. Their
>>>         response was that I should use Chrome and it would work. So,
>>>         I replied giving much more detail, including disclosing my
>>>         blindness. I have not heard anything back from them.
>>>
>>>         The ironic part, they have a whole department dedicated to
>>>         Diversity and Inclusion.
>>>
>>>         Does EEO and other employment laws extend to assessments
>>>         that are required for applying for the job?
>>>
>>>         This is a large corporation that I would think would be up
>>>         to date on all the employment laws.
>>>
>>>         Thanks,
>>>
>>>         Michael
>>>
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