[Mdpobc] Question of the day

Sat Nov 16 20:32:58 UTC 2013

I loved reading all your comments to Trudy's question. In fact I cut &
pasted them into a Word document & shared it with the TVIs in Fairfax
County VA where I teach. I think I'll also send it to the parents of one of
my students, who want their advanced placement 3rd grader to be able to use
audio & do her work orally because she reads braille slowly. It's been very
frustrating! I feel the way you all do about keeping her hands on the
braille! Thank you.

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Kyle Richmond <
Kyle.Richmond2009 at comcast.net> wrote:

>  Although Dezman makes a really good point and using audio books as an
> adjunct to braille is certainly useful, I would advise any parent of a
> blind student NOT to mention this at an IEP meeting... just saying ....
> Jill
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Trudy Pickrel <tlpickrel at hotmail.com>
> *To:* Maryland Parents of Blind Children List <mdpobc at nfbnet.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:41 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Mdpobc] Question of the day
>
> Great point Dezman.
>
> Trudy Pickrel
> President Md Parent Blind Children.
> 301-501-1818
> Www.TLCbytheLake.com <http://www.TLCbytheLake.com>
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Dezman Jackson <djackson at BISM.org> wrote:
>
>   I would say that if braille reading speed is an issue, using the audio
> books as an adjunct to braille could be useful in that he would read along
> with the audio book to get his mind and fingers accustomed to a normal
> speed.  However, in no way allow the audio to be provided in place of
> braille, braille, braille!  I also think that it’s much easier to expand
> ones vocabulary when dealing with the written word.
>
>  Dezman
>
>   *From:* Mdpobc [mailto:mdpobc-bounces at nfbnet.org<mdpobc-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Bernadette Jacobs
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:19 PM
> *To:* Maryland Parents of Blind Children List
> *Subject:* Re: [Mdpobc] Question of the day
>
>  Ever try a cookbook on tape???  That'll cure the audeo-book thing, for
> sure!!!  When I'm cooking in my kitchen, I have my Braille book spread out
> on my dining room table opened to the recipe and I can simply run back and
> forth to read over it with my fingers.  Now, with a book on tape, it
> probably would take hours and hours to rewind something to the ingredient
> or set of instructions and I simply would find that intolerable!!!
>
> Braille doesn't require batteries.  It doesn't crash.  It's so much easier
> when you wish to look up a given passage or statement with the Braille
> under your fingers.  If you need the correct spelling of a word, it's so
> much easier when it's under your fingers.  Need any more reasons for
> Braille???  After all, I'm speaking here, from the voice of experience and
> have been for some 50 years.  Went K-12; then to college; and till the day
> I die Honey!!!  Got Braille all over my house and as much as Virginia hates
> me to do it, I make sure she keeps up her skill as well.  Go BRAILLE!!!
> Bernie
>
> On 11/13/2013 10:50 AM, dpws at aol.com wrote:
>
>   Personally I agree that braille under fingers is very important.  As
> the child progresses in school, he or she needs to learn the proper
> spelling of words, sentence structure and punctuation.  That can only be
> learned from reading books, not listening to them.  These skills are
> imperative in high school, college and the working world.  Furthermore,
> many books are now available for download onto Braille notetakers and
> computers with braille displays so the school can't say they take up too
> much room now!  It is fine to want reading to be enjoyable so hopefully the
> teacher encourages required reading outside of the coursework allowing
> students to pick something of interest for them.  This would be a great
> time for the use of audio books.
>
>  As your son moves to high school and college, he will need to become
> proficient in the use of audiobooks for cousework; but make sure that
> braille is available as much as possible.  My son used braille as his
> primary preference all the way through college because he liked being able
> to refer back to passages and found them easier to find in braille than on
> audiobooks.  He also enjoyed reading to himself much more than listening to
> the audiobooks because they honestly bored him to sleep.
>
>  Good luck and keep advocating!
>
>  Cherlynn Venit (mom to David Rissling-Venit)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trudy Pickrel <tlpickrel at hotmail.com> <tlpickrel at hotmail.com>
> To: Maryland Parents of Blind Children List <mdpobc at nfbnet.org><mdpobc at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wed, Nov 13, 2013 12:48 pm
> Subject: [Mdpobc] Question of the day
>
> So last night at parent teacher conference I find out that they have been
>
> allowing our son in six grade to do all audiobooks. Reason why I don't know. The
>
> language arts teacher said will you please consider allowing him to do this
>
> after I stated that this was concerning to me. Because he says he wants  reading
>
> to be enjoyable. Excepting all thoughts on this.
>
>
>
> Mine is No. Must have Braille under fingers. If their  concern is slowness and
>
> enjoyment the only way to get that is with repetition.
>
>
>
> What is your thoughts
>
>
>
> Trudy Pickrel
>
> President Md Parent Blind Children.
>
> 301-501-1818
>
> Www.TLCbytheLake.com
>
>
>
>
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