[musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song

Fri Mar 1 17:56:35 UTC 2013

Yup: I'm with you: too many folks (oddly in my experiences churches n particular) duck this!

sheri
-----Original Message-----
From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marion Gwizdala
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 12:03 PM
To: Music Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song

Sheri,
    As a professional counselor, we generally define "ethics" as "compliance 
with the unenforceable". The law was created to prevent unscrupulous agents 
and studio executive from taking advantage of those who create their wealth, 
so I am happy the laws exist and happy to pay the royalties due to those 
whose music I use!

Blessings!
Marion

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sheri Beth Wells-Jensen" <swellsj at bgsu.edu>
To: "Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song

> We spend a lot of time making sure our church is playing fair with 
> copyrights and that what we record is adequately compensated, and I agree 
> with your assessment, Marion.  People do various things which are not 
> strictly legal... some of them ethical and some not (those two aren't 
> always the same thing!), but the law is set up to try to help people work 
> fairly with one another, so you can't goose the price of a 
> currently-popular song or discount older material.  It might feel 
> restrictive, but it's set up to protect the little guy in the end.
> sheri
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marion 
> Gwizdala
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 7:58 AM
> To: Music Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
>
> Timothy,
>    I do not believe this is completely accurate. My understanding is that
> United States copyright law statutorially sets the amount you can charge 
> for
> royalties. I believe you must either charge that amount or waive the fee. 
> It
> is my understanding that you cannot charge more or less than the
> statutorially prescribed amount. Does anyone understand this differently? 
> I
> will see what I can find out in copyright law when I have the time.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
>
>
>> hello - the thing is though i own the rights to my songs.
>> i could wave the fee.
>> not quite sure if that's ever been done but if you own it you can do
>> whatever you want with it.
>> Timothy
>> Your friend in the music industry
>> http://www.timothyclarkmusic.tumblr.com
>> 7244011224
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Marion Gwizdala wrote:
>>
>>> Likewise, songs that one may think is surely copyrighted may not be! For
>>> instance, my last album has a recording of "Morning Has Broken" many
>>> believe belongs to Cat Stevens (Yusef Islam); however, the music was
>>> written in the 1600s and the popular lyrics were written in 1923, making
>>> both the music and the lyrics in the public domain.
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheri Beth Wells-Jensen"
>>> <swellsj at bgsu.edu>
>>> To: "Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
>>>
>>>
>>>> And word to the wise... double check the status of a song: we've often
>>>> come upon things we think: surely that's in the public domain: school
>>>> kids sing that on the bus etc. etc. etc. only to find out it isn't.
>>>> $.09 a copy isn't much, but,if everyone would pay it, more song writers
>>>> would eat!
>>>>
>>>> Sheri W-J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Brandon
>>>> Keith Biggs
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:26 AM
>>>> To: Music Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> You need to go to Harry Fox Agency.
>>>> http://www.harryfox.com/
>>>>
>>>> It isn't a big deal if you are giving away the CD, but if you are
>>>> selling it
>>>> with covers you must get rights or stop distributing the CD. If you 
>>>> want
>>>> to
>>>> perform the songs you need to join either ASCAP, BMI or SESAC. The only
>>>> time
>>>> this is not true is if:
>>>> 1. You write all your own songs.
>>>> 2. You perform almost exclusively open domain works like music written
>>>> before the 1930s...
>>>> 3. You have a written contract signed by both parties giving you the
>>>> right
>>>> to perform the song from the owner of the song.
>>>> When you contact the people, don't tell them you already have the song
>>>> recorded. Tell them you would like to have it on your CD. That will
>>>> lower
>>>> the price considerably.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Debbie
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:30 PM
>>>> To: Music Talk Mailing List
>>>> Subject: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
>>>>
>>>> I know I did things in reverse by recording a cd first, and then asking
>>>> questions.  However, it was originally to be given to friends and 
>>>> family
>>>> in
>>>> the beginning.
>>>>
>>>> In order to deal with more and more requests from those who've heard it
>>>> and
>>>> want one or more of the sixteen songs, where can I go to see who owns
>>>> the
>>>> rights to a given song?  I know about songclearance, and may use them 
>>>> at
>>>> some point.  I feel rather certain that most of the songs are in the
>>>> public
>>>> domain with the exception of two.
>>>>
>>>> Then I am thinking about using the service of cdbaby to help market
>>>> these
>>>> songs.
>>>>
>>>> Debbie Human
>>>>
>>>>
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