[musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song

Timothy Clark Music timothyclarkmusic at me.com
Sat Mar 2 01:13:08 CST 2013


correct, i'm just saying though that it's nice to keep checking there to make sure nothing's changed or anything like that. 
 things in this industry change on a dime sometimes.
Timothy 
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On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:06 AM, Linda Mentink wrote:

> If the church has a CLI license, it has to be reported in an annual report, but copies can be made.
> 
> At 05:43 PM 2/28/2013, you wrote:
>> you do have to be careful though with that.
>> some companies that are affiliated with the big names such as chris tomlin requires you get promission should you wish to print out the music and or the lyrics to pass out to the congregation.
>> the guys you would want to contact is CCLI. hope this helps.
>> Timothy
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>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Sheri Beth Wells-Jensen wrote:
>> 
>> > Yes, you can sing or play a song in church... Unless... you want to display or copy the lyrics: then you are in copyright land again even if it's  an  extra copy for the extra guitar or whatever.  I know lots of churches quietly ignore this and routinely make copies of lyrics, reprint them in worship aids or just shrug and display them on overhead projectors.  If it's a concert, then, again, someone, somewhere should be paying even if it's a cherity affair.
>> > Never easy!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:56 PM
>> > To: Music Talk Mailing List
>> > Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
>> >
>> > You don't need permission to sing songs in church, unless you're being paid a salary, (a contract,) for example.
>> > If you are singing the songs at church for a love offering basis, you aren't profiting from it, so you're okay.
>> > Blessings, Joshua
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: musictlk [musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Debbie [mouseless at mindspring.com]
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:50 PM
>> > To: Music Talk Mailing List
>> > Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
>> >
>> > Thanks to all for your helpful suggestions.
>> >
>> > Do I need to get permission to be able to sing a song in church, or does this just apply to those one records?
>> >
>> > Also, are there pricing discounts through any of the music organizations?
>> >
>> > Debbie Human
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> > To: "Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:33 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
>> >
>> >
>> >> Likewise, songs that one may think is surely copyrighted may not be!
>> >> For instance, my last album has a recording of "Morning Has Broken"
>> >> many believe belongs to Cat Stevens (Yusef Islam); however, the music
>> >> was written in the 1600s and the popular lyrics were written in 1923,
>> >> making both the music and the lyrics in the public domain.
>> >>
>> >> Fraternally yours,
>> >> Marion Gwizdala
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Sheri Beth Wells-Jensen" <swellsj at bgsu.edu>
>> >> To: "Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:11 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> And word to the wise... double check the status of a song: we've
>> >>> often come upon things we think: surely that's in the public domain:
>> >>> school kids sing that on the bus etc. etc. etc. only to find out it isn't.
>> >>> $.09 a copy isn't much, but,if everyone would pay it, more song
>> >>> writers would eat!
>> >>>
>> >>> Sheri W-J
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:26 AM
>> >>> To: Music Talk Mailing List
>> >>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>> You need to go to Harry Fox Agency.
>> >>> http://www.harryfox.com/
>> >>>
>> >>> It isn't a big deal if you are giving away the CD, but if you are
>> >>> selling it with covers you must get rights or stop distributing the
>> >>> CD. If you want to perform the songs you need to join either ASCAP,
>> >>> BMI or SESAC. The only time this is not true is if:
>> >>> 1. You write all your own songs.
>> >>> 2. You perform almost exclusively open domain works like music
>> >>> written before the 1930s...
>> >>> 3. You have a written contract signed by both parties giving you the
>> >>> right to perform the song from the owner of the song.
>> >>> When you contact the people, don't tell them you already have the
>> >>> song recorded. Tell them you would like to have it on your CD. That
>> >>> will lower the price considerably.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Debbie
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:30 PM
>> >>> To: Music Talk Mailing List
>> >>> Subject: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
>> >>>
>> >>> I know I did things in reverse by recording a cd first, and then
>> >>> asking questions.  However, it was originally to be given to friends
>> >>> and family in the beginning.
>> >>>
>> >>> In order to deal with more and more requests from those who've heard
>> >>> it and want one or more of the sixteen songs, where can I go to see
>> >>> who owns the rights to a given song?  I know about songclearance, and
>> >>> may use them at some point.  I feel rather certain that most of the
>> >>> songs are in the public domain with the exception of two.
>> >>>
>> >>> Then I am thinking about using the service of cdbaby to help market
>> >>> these songs.
>> >>>
>> >>> Debbie Human
>> >>>
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