[musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song

Sat Mar 2 05:06:39 UTC 2013

If the church has a CLI license, it has to be reported in an annual 
report, but copies can be made.

At 05:43 PM 2/28/2013, you wrote:
>you do have to be careful though with that.
>  some companies that are affiliated with the big names such as 
> chris tomlin requires you get promission should you wish to print 
> out the music and or the lyrics to pass out to the congregation.
>  the guys you would want to contact is CCLI. hope this helps.
>Timothy
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>On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Sheri Beth Wells-Jensen wrote:
>
> > Yes, you can sing or play a song in church... Unless... you want 
> to display or copy the lyrics: then you are in copyright land again 
> even if it's  an  extra copy for the extra guitar or whatever.  I 
> know lots of churches quietly ignore this and routinely make copies 
> of lyrics, reprint them in worship aids or just shrug and display 
> them on overhead projectors.  If it's a concert, then, again, 
> someone, somewhere should be paying even if it's a cherity affair.
> > Never easy!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Lester
> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:56 PM
> > To: Music Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
> >
> > You don't need permission to sing songs in church, unless you're 
> being paid a salary, (a contract,) for example.
> > If you are singing the songs at church for a love offering basis, 
> you aren't profiting from it, so you're okay.
> > Blessings, Joshua
> > ________________________________________
> > From: musictlk [musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Debbie 
> [mouseless at mindspring.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:50 PM
> > To: Music Talk Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
> >
> > Thanks to all for your helpful suggestions.
> >
> > Do I need to get permission to be able to sing a song in church, 
> or does this just apply to those one records?
> >
> > Also, are there pricing discounts through any of the music organizations?
> >
> > Debbie Human
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> > To: "Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
> >
> >
> >> Likewise, songs that one may think is surely copyrighted may not be!
> >> For instance, my last album has a recording of "Morning Has Broken"
> >> many believe belongs to Cat Stevens (Yusef Islam); however, the music
> >> was written in the 1600s and the popular lyrics were written in 1923,
> >> making both the music and the lyrics in the public domain.
> >>
> >> Fraternally yours,
> >> Marion Gwizdala
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Sheri Beth Wells-Jensen" <swellsj at bgsu.edu>
> >> To: "Music Talk Mailing List" <musictlk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:11 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
> >>
> >>
> >>> And word to the wise... double check the status of a song: we've
> >>> often come upon things we think: surely that's in the public domain:
> >>> school kids sing that on the bus etc. etc. etc. only to find 
> out it isn't.
> >>> $.09 a copy isn't much, but,if everyone would pay it, more song
> >>> writers would eat!
> >>>
> >>> Sheri W-J
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: musictlk [mailto:musictlk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> Brandon Keith Biggs
> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:26 AM
> >>> To: Music Talk Mailing List
> >>> Subject: Re: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>> You need to go to Harry Fox Agency.
> >>> http://www.harryfox.com/
> >>>
> >>> It isn't a big deal if you are giving away the CD, but if you are
> >>> selling it with covers you must get rights or stop distributing the
> >>> CD. If you want to perform the songs you need to join either ASCAP,
> >>> BMI or SESAC. The only time this is not true is if:
> >>> 1. You write all your own songs.
> >>> 2. You perform almost exclusively open domain works like music
> >>> written before the 1930s...
> >>> 3. You have a written contract signed by both parties giving you the
> >>> right to perform the song from the owner of the song.
> >>> When you contact the people, don't tell them you already have the
> >>> song recorded. Tell them you would like to have it on your CD. That
> >>> will lower the price considerably.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Brandon Keith Biggs
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Debbie
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:30 PM
> >>> To: Music Talk Mailing List
> >>> Subject: [musictlk] Question about Rights to a Song
> >>>
> >>> I know I did things in reverse by recording a cd first, and then
> >>> asking questions.  However, it was originally to be given to friends
> >>> and family in the beginning.
> >>>
> >>> In order to deal with more and more requests from those who've heard
> >>> it and want one or more of the sixteen songs, where can I go to see
> >>> who owns the rights to a given song?  I know about songclearance, and
> >>> may use them at some point.  I feel rather certain that most of the
> >>> songs are in the public domain with the exception of two.
> >>>
> >>> Then I am thinking about using the service of cdbaby to help market
> >>> these songs.
> >>>
> >>> Debbie Human
> >>>
> >>>
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